The core idea is actually fine here but the execution seems insane.
Wait until the patients are home and recovering as outpatients, why bother them on the ward?
I work on a rather large project that aims to get young people back into education and work, it is something the majority want, with most just needing some extra support, guidance, opportunity and systems to aid them.
Obviously getting people back into work and off benefits has huge cost savings financially too over the long term.
TeenySod on
Seriously, policy designers need to experience the real world.
I don’t have a degree. I don’t consider myself especially intelligent or insightful or whatever, so if I can see something is bonkers, and an obvious easier/cheaper to administer solution then WHY can’t all those supposedly clever people who are running the country?
Said solution: if they are long term patients, it would be far better to charge adults accommodation costs if they are in hospital long term and don’t have any other home expenses (many don’t). They would be paying for food and household expenses if they were living anywhere else.
Yes, there would be howls of outrage about having to pay for healthcare. Tabloid press gonna tabloid press, anyone with any sense can understand that it’s not the medication, nursing, etc they are paying for (which is the expensive bit), it’s their food and accommodation.
Unless job coaches are experienced with working with people in mental health settings, and you can’t tell me there will be enough of those around, this is doomed to be an expensive failure.
Charming-Raspberry77 on
This is horrifying. One finally makes the step to seek help and while in the mental ward, gets told „it’s all in their head, work is good for you“. She should be made to volunteer in such a ward before making statements such as this.
serena22 on
Breaching patient confidentially to interrupt someone’s emergency mental health care, with a job search. What could possibly go wrong.
Do these people realize that a not small amount of sectionable mental health episodes, are directly because of people feeling hopeless because of the pip process?
I can’t see any mental health professional, nurse or doctor actually allowing these people access to their patients.
Random_Reddit_bloke on
“Hi, I’m from the government. Now, I know those horrid little scars across your wrists are still healing, but have you ever considered working in a call centre?”
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The core idea is actually fine here but the execution seems insane.
Wait until the patients are home and recovering as outpatients, why bother them on the ward?
I work on a rather large project that aims to get young people back into education and work, it is something the majority want, with most just needing some extra support, guidance, opportunity and systems to aid them.
Obviously getting people back into work and off benefits has huge cost savings financially too over the long term.
Seriously, policy designers need to experience the real world.
I don’t have a degree. I don’t consider myself especially intelligent or insightful or whatever, so if I can see something is bonkers, and an obvious easier/cheaper to administer solution then WHY can’t all those supposedly clever people who are running the country?
Said solution: if they are long term patients, it would be far better to charge adults accommodation costs if they are in hospital long term and don’t have any other home expenses (many don’t). They would be paying for food and household expenses if they were living anywhere else.
Yes, there would be howls of outrage about having to pay for healthcare. Tabloid press gonna tabloid press, anyone with any sense can understand that it’s not the medication, nursing, etc they are paying for (which is the expensive bit), it’s their food and accommodation.
Unless job coaches are experienced with working with people in mental health settings, and you can’t tell me there will be enough of those around, this is doomed to be an expensive failure.
This is horrifying. One finally makes the step to seek help and while in the mental ward, gets told „it’s all in their head, work is good for you“. She should be made to volunteer in such a ward before making statements such as this.
Breaching patient confidentially to interrupt someone’s emergency mental health care, with a job search. What could possibly go wrong.
Do these people realize that a not small amount of sectionable mental health episodes, are directly because of people feeling hopeless because of the pip process?
I can’t see any mental health professional, nurse or doctor actually allowing these people access to their patients.
“Hi, I’m from the government. Now, I know those horrid little scars across your wrists are still healing, but have you ever considered working in a call centre?”