Renaming it back to bragg is no different than naming it Fort ISIS or Fort Bin Laden.
ltong1009 on
Racists gonna racist.
Johnnyguiiiiitar on
Game recognizes game lol
youveruinedtheactgob on
MAGA is essentially the Confederacy reanimated, shot up with some clean Nazi meth, and set loose to feast on the brains of the lonely and dumb.
sugarlessdeathbear on
Everyone who fought for the Confederacy AGAINST the US was a traitor. Our biggest mistake was the (in hindsight) misguided attempt at unification afterwards. We should not have let confederate leaders back into the US government.
Saniconspeep on
Don’t worry he’s changing it back to Ft Bragg not after the confederate general, but the DA who convicted him.
Mike_Pences_Mother on
I’m sure that will gain him some new voters. /s
LuvKrahft on
Maga and the confederacy. A bunch of gullible racist rubes willing to lay down their lives for greedy slaving land grabbers.
Same as it ever was.
KafeenHedake on
Dumb asshole Steven Cheung has either the nerve or the brain damage to call me an “anti-american simp” or whatever, when they’re literally celebrating traitors that declared war on America?
Hey, moron – you can’t get any more anti-American than the fucking Confederacy.
Jesus.
junfukuda on
Treason is pretty on-brand of Trump. Trump’s slogan should be: Treason. Criminal. Corrupt.
MadRaymer on
They were also losers. I have socks that have lasted longer than the Confederacy.
OppositeDifference on
You have to ask yourself why we’ve got such a large group of people still venerating a breakaway traitor nation that only existed for 4 years 160 years ago. You have to wonder why things were named after that traitor nation’s generals and leaders at all, right?
I’m sorry if I offend anyone, but the confederacy was built on racism and greed and fear of losing what was an inherently corrupt and dehumanizing way of life. We shouldn’t celebrate it as our “heritage” any more than we should celebrate the fact that this country was largely built on the backs of slaves.
cixdu on
Traitors indeed. Told this story before, but it’s all I can think of when I ponder how best to deal with these traitors and their modern-day ilk.
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My great3x-Grandfather was a union soldier who temporarily served as a prison guard at Camp Chase (in Ohio), and this story passed down from his diary/journals was always crazy to me.
At least at his time, the officers tried to distinguish between the low-level conscripts and the higher-ranking officers who were more likely to truly believe in the Confederate cause. Life was tough for the conscripts as the camp got bigger, but they weren’t given any additional punishment. Some were even allowed to enjoy recreation like playing baseball.
For the higher-ranking officers who were captured though, who were found to have willfully rebelled, the Union officers “sentenced” them to some pretty **gnarly** punishments. The aftermath of the war was uncertain and there was strong sentiment that traitors had to be punished *now*, so the Union officers set up 5-man tribunals to hear cases and sentence traitors to punishment. My ancestor served on some such tribunals
_______
The one that really stood out in his mind was this, given how much he wrote about it:
There was a cattle barn on-site (I guess to provide food/milk for the officers or maybe even the prisoners) with maybe a few dozen cattle.
Confederate captive officers would be led to the barn in cuffs, forced to climb up onto a cow or an ox facing backwards, and lie down, face hanging off the end, until his face was level with the animal’s butt.
The union guards would press his face into the cow’s butt and bind him tightly in that position, and leave him there to serve his punishment.
8 hours a day for 3 days was a common sentence, and apparently it was feared more than any other. He recalls going into the barn on some days to get milk, and seeing a line of 20-30 cows, all with a Confederate captive tied up face-to-ass, hearing all the gagging and retching as he’d pass by.
Wh0snwhatsit on
Birds of a feather….
Darklord_Bravo on
He thinks just changing a name of a base is going to get him the win in the state? That’s some fucked up logic. He said this in his little echo chamber rally. Naturally they’re gonna cheer or boo anything he wants them to.
The rest of the state? Probably not.
Claypool4President on
This is just stupid. Real historians and civil war enthusiasts know that Bragg isn’t even respected. He wasn’t then and he isn’t now. He’s widely accepted to be one of the worst generals of the war. Even a Confederate sympathizer should roll their eyes at this.
2HDFloppyDisk on
Meanwhile, the Marine Corps names their bases after Medal of Honor recipients and other significant figures.
Camp Lejeune = 13th Commandant of the Marine Corps
Camp Schwab = “Albert E. Schwab, a Marine who was posthumously awarded the Medal of Honor for bravery during the battle of Okinawa.”
etc. etc. etc.
These are things Trump will never understand.
UziMunkey on
So is he so how is this surprising?
daemonescanem on
Traitors like traitors.
Roriborialus on
Being traitors is the biggest thing maga and the confederacy have in common.
OldManPip5 on
Trump is the guy who enabled the confederate flag to enter the U.S. capitol. I remind people of this whenever republicans try to claim to be the party of Lincoln.
mfGLOVE on
> Later, Trump indicated his pledge was the “secret to winning” battleground North Carolina after the crowd booed a man who identified himself as an active duty soldier at Fort Liberty.
> “I think I just learned the secret to winning absolutely and by massive margins,” Trump said. “I’m going to promise to you… that we’re going to change the name back to Fort Bragg…This great-looking soldier just accidentally said Fort Liberty and he got almost booed the hell out of the place.”
independent_observe on
The man who was responsible for a direct attack on the United States wants to honor another traitor to the United States.
attorneyatslaw on
A loser wants to name a military base after another hated bumbling loser.
bluedreamsensi on
He really sympathizes with people who come in second place.
> Later, Trump indicated his pledge was the "Secret to winning" battleground North Carolina after the crowd booed a man who identified himself as an active duty soldier at Fort Liberty.
> "Because what is foremost on the minds on North Carolinians right now is restoring honors to an incompetent Confederate General who was despised by his staff and men and lost repeatedly before getting fired," Ron Filipkowski, the editor-in-chief of the liberal media company MeidasTouch, wrote on X. Myron Pitts, the opinion editor of the Fayetteville Observer, wrote: "In case you're wondering: Bragg and other southern bases shed their Rebel names by federal law in a past defense bill. The idea that Trump or anyone would get DC lawmakers to not only defend the old names but affirmatively resurrect the Confederacy is slim to none.”
Anyone who *thinks* that electing a convicted felon, a liar, a grifter, to the highest office in this land just to get a piece of property renamed isn’t *thinking*.
jimdozer on
The GOP is the Confederacy
KrookedDoesStuff on
>> “I think I just learned the secret to winning absolutely and by massive margins,” Trump said. “I’m going to promise to you… that we’re going to change the name back to Fort Bragg…This great-looking soldier just accidentally said Fort Liberty and he got almost booed the hell out of the place.”
It’s weird how much the party that “respects the military” and “supports the troops” and “loves America” hates our fucking troops and country
captainedwinkrieger on
Hey, anyone still wanna use the old “The Democrats fought for slavery” line? It’s not like Kamala fucking Harris is defending the dead traitors.
tbonerrevisited on
He stands tall with the traitors and those who would attack our great nation. Fucking pos
Its_Bozo_Dubbed_Over on
Man, fuck the Confederacy and all these gap toothed morons’ ancestors that died defending it. Scoreboard, pussies.
Mish61 on
Donald is also a traitor
phinbar on
He found the secret to getting elected: Tell people what they want to hear, even if it’s something that can’t and/or won’t be done. Genius. /s
naotoca on
It works for Republicans though. It’s an extreme coddling move, and they have communicated to their candidates that they want to be coddled at all costs.
walman93 on
Besides them being traitors, Braxton Bragg wasn’t even an effective general. Even putting aside him being a confederate general, he was; grossly incompetent, a sociopath that enjoyed cruelty and killing his own men for pleasure and was just overall bad at strategy. Even if you are the most dedicated racist confederate, why the hell would you choose him to name your base? The south had a lot of effective generals but he was not one of them.
supraspinatus on
How does this make America great again?
skevimc on
The military also wanted the names changed from the Confederate generals names.
Shutaru_Kanshinji on
So is Trump. In the legal sense of the word.
ADCSrane on
As is he!
bobartig on
> Asked for comment, Trump spokesman Steven Cheung called the critics “anti-America simps.”
Yes. Nothing says “America” like a rebel faction who tried, and failed, to overthrow the government, because they would rather dismantle America than be a part of it.
Nothing says patriotism and love of country like a bunch of folks who said, “Fuck this, I’m out.”
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Renaming it back to bragg is no different than naming it Fort ISIS or Fort Bin Laden.
Racists gonna racist.
Game recognizes game lol
MAGA is essentially the Confederacy reanimated, shot up with some clean Nazi meth, and set loose to feast on the brains of the lonely and dumb.
Everyone who fought for the Confederacy AGAINST the US was a traitor. Our biggest mistake was the (in hindsight) misguided attempt at unification afterwards. We should not have let confederate leaders back into the US government.
Don’t worry he’s changing it back to Ft Bragg not after the confederate general, but the DA who convicted him.
I’m sure that will gain him some new voters. /s
Maga and the confederacy. A bunch of gullible racist rubes willing to lay down their lives for greedy slaving land grabbers.
Same as it ever was.
Dumb asshole Steven Cheung has either the nerve or the brain damage to call me an “anti-american simp” or whatever, when they’re literally celebrating traitors that declared war on America?
Hey, moron – you can’t get any more anti-American than the fucking Confederacy.
Jesus.
Treason is pretty on-brand of Trump. Trump’s slogan should be: Treason. Criminal. Corrupt.
They were also losers. I have socks that have lasted longer than the Confederacy.
You have to ask yourself why we’ve got such a large group of people still venerating a breakaway traitor nation that only existed for 4 years 160 years ago. You have to wonder why things were named after that traitor nation’s generals and leaders at all, right?
I’m sorry if I offend anyone, but the confederacy was built on racism and greed and fear of losing what was an inherently corrupt and dehumanizing way of life. We shouldn’t celebrate it as our “heritage” any more than we should celebrate the fact that this country was largely built on the backs of slaves.
Traitors indeed. Told this story before, but it’s all I can think of when I ponder how best to deal with these traitors and their modern-day ilk.
_______
My great3x-Grandfather was a union soldier who temporarily served as a prison guard at Camp Chase (in Ohio), and this story passed down from his diary/journals was always crazy to me.
At least at his time, the officers tried to distinguish between the low-level conscripts and the higher-ranking officers who were more likely to truly believe in the Confederate cause. Life was tough for the conscripts as the camp got bigger, but they weren’t given any additional punishment. Some were even allowed to enjoy recreation like playing baseball.
For the higher-ranking officers who were captured though, who were found to have willfully rebelled, the Union officers “sentenced” them to some pretty **gnarly** punishments. The aftermath of the war was uncertain and there was strong sentiment that traitors had to be punished *now*, so the Union officers set up 5-man tribunals to hear cases and sentence traitors to punishment. My ancestor served on some such tribunals
_______
The one that really stood out in his mind was this, given how much he wrote about it:
There was a cattle barn on-site (I guess to provide food/milk for the officers or maybe even the prisoners) with maybe a few dozen cattle.
Confederate captive officers would be led to the barn in cuffs, forced to climb up onto a cow or an ox facing backwards, and lie down, face hanging off the end, until his face was level with the animal’s butt.
The union guards would press his face into the cow’s butt and bind him tightly in that position, and leave him there to serve his punishment.
8 hours a day for 3 days was a common sentence, and apparently it was feared more than any other. He recalls going into the barn on some days to get milk, and seeing a line of 20-30 cows, all with a Confederate captive tied up face-to-ass, hearing all the gagging and retching as he’d pass by.
Birds of a feather….
He thinks just changing a name of a base is going to get him the win in the state? That’s some fucked up logic. He said this in his little echo chamber rally. Naturally they’re gonna cheer or boo anything he wants them to.
The rest of the state? Probably not.
This is just stupid. Real historians and civil war enthusiasts know that Bragg isn’t even respected. He wasn’t then and he isn’t now. He’s widely accepted to be one of the worst generals of the war. Even a Confederate sympathizer should roll their eyes at this.
Meanwhile, the Marine Corps names their bases after Medal of Honor recipients and other significant figures.
Camp Lejeune = 13th Commandant of the Marine Corps
Camp Schwab = “Albert E. Schwab, a Marine who was posthumously awarded the Medal of Honor for bravery during the battle of Okinawa.”
etc. etc. etc.
These are things Trump will never understand.
So is he so how is this surprising?
Traitors like traitors.
Being traitors is the biggest thing maga and the confederacy have in common.
Trump is the guy who enabled the confederate flag to enter the U.S. capitol. I remind people of this whenever republicans try to claim to be the party of Lincoln.
> Later, Trump indicated his pledge was the “secret to winning” battleground North Carolina after the crowd booed a man who identified himself as an active duty soldier at Fort Liberty.
> “I think I just learned the secret to winning absolutely and by massive margins,” Trump said. “I’m going to promise to you… that we’re going to change the name back to Fort Bragg…This great-looking soldier just accidentally said Fort Liberty and he got almost booed the hell out of the place.”
The man who was responsible for a direct attack on the United States wants to honor another traitor to the United States.
A loser wants to name a military base after another hated bumbling loser.
He really sympathizes with people who come in second place.
This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-attacked-confederacy-pledge-fort-bragg-1964297) reduced by 72%. (I’m a bot)
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> Former President Donald Trump's pledge to restore the Confederate title of a military base that was renamed has sparked criticism on social media.
> Later, Trump indicated his pledge was the "Secret to winning" battleground North Carolina after the crowd booed a man who identified himself as an active duty soldier at Fort Liberty.
> "Because what is foremost on the minds on North Carolinians right now is restoring honors to an incompetent Confederate General who was despised by his staff and men and lost repeatedly before getting fired," Ron Filipkowski, the editor-in-chief of the liberal media company MeidasTouch, wrote on X. Myron Pitts, the opinion editor of the Fayetteville Observer, wrote: "In case you're wondering: Bragg and other southern bases shed their Rebel names by federal law in a past defense bill. The idea that Trump or anyone would get DC lawmakers to not only defend the old names but affirmatively resurrect the Confederacy is slim to none.”
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Donald Trump stand with the best losers.
Anyone who *thinks* that electing a convicted felon, a liar, a grifter, to the highest office in this land just to get a piece of property renamed isn’t *thinking*.
The GOP is the Confederacy
>> “I think I just learned the secret to winning absolutely and by massive margins,” Trump said. “I’m going to promise to you… that we’re going to change the name back to Fort Bragg…This great-looking soldier just accidentally said Fort Liberty and he got almost booed the hell out of the place.”
It’s weird how much the party that “respects the military” and “supports the troops” and “loves America” hates our fucking troops and country
Hey, anyone still wanna use the old “The Democrats fought for slavery” line? It’s not like Kamala fucking Harris is defending the dead traitors.
He stands tall with the traitors and those who would attack our great nation. Fucking pos
Man, fuck the Confederacy and all these gap toothed morons’ ancestors that died defending it. Scoreboard, pussies.
Donald is also a traitor
He found the secret to getting elected: Tell people what they want to hear, even if it’s something that can’t and/or won’t be done. Genius. /s
It works for Republicans though. It’s an extreme coddling move, and they have communicated to their candidates that they want to be coddled at all costs.
Besides them being traitors, Braxton Bragg wasn’t even an effective general. Even putting aside him being a confederate general, he was; grossly incompetent, a sociopath that enjoyed cruelty and killing his own men for pleasure and was just overall bad at strategy. Even if you are the most dedicated racist confederate, why the hell would you choose him to name your base? The south had a lot of effective generals but he was not one of them.
How does this make America great again?
The military also wanted the names changed from the Confederate generals names.
So is Trump. In the legal sense of the word.
As is he!
> Asked for comment, Trump spokesman Steven Cheung called the critics “anti-America simps.”
Yes. Nothing says “America” like a rebel faction who tried, and failed, to overthrow the government, because they would rather dismantle America than be a part of it.
Nothing says patriotism and love of country like a bunch of folks who said, “Fuck this, I’m out.”