Its not. But this is what happens when you have a leave campaign run on lies, and people who happily believe what they’re told without questioning it
IllustriousLynx8099 on
> Once seen as a rite of passage
Get the impression I grew up in a completely different world to the average Guardian reader
AnTurDorcha on
I know people who wanted to / romanticised about living in Australia, Canada, US.
Never met a Brit who lamented losing rights to work in Europe
Amazing_Battle3777 on
In Europe? Some guardian love letter this.
Canada / US / AUS – sure that would make sense, in fact it’s better than ever for young people for Aus and Canada than 10 years ago, mobility visas and second year stays are much easier.
Disastrous_Fruit1525 on
No one has lost the ability to live and work in the EU. The rules have changed and it may be a bit harder to achieve, but to say you can no longer do it is utter rubbish.
AcademicIncrease8080 on
You can still get a job in the EU, if you apply to a role where they give you a visa. Do people really think it’s **impossible** for Australians, Americans, Japanese, Canadians etc to work in the EU 😛
Marcuse0 on
>Working in the rest of Europe was seen by some as a rite of passage
Yeah, privileged kids who can afford to fuck off abroad for a gap year might have done so, but normal people never even considered it a possibility.
They quote that in 2011 400000 Britons were in the EU for over a year, but they quote figures for 15-49 year olds. Probably not all taking very important gap years then.
What this amounts to is fudging stats to act like hundreds of thousands of people are being deprived of some right they give a shit about. The population of the UK according to the 2012 census was 56.1m meaning this 400000 figure is a fraction of the overall population even doing this.
So are they really stating we should be upset about losing a right that less than 1% of the population was even utilising to any great extent? There’s plenty of things wrong with how Brexit was sold to people, but arguing from this point is a terrible idea, because it just smacks of intense privilege to argue that everyone should think the way they do because of a right the overwhelming majority of the country wasn’t using and didn’t care about.
HorrorDate8265 on
They say this, but out of my friend group, I’m the only one that had the drive to actually go ahead and work overseas for a year. And I’m in my mid 30s, so my friend group absolutely had the opportunity to do this and didn’t.
Also, they can still work abroad. When I did it, it wasnt to an EU country.
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Its not. But this is what happens when you have a leave campaign run on lies, and people who happily believe what they’re told without questioning it
> Once seen as a rite of passage
Get the impression I grew up in a completely different world to the average Guardian reader
I know people who wanted to / romanticised about living in Australia, Canada, US.
Never met a Brit who lamented losing rights to work in Europe
In Europe? Some guardian love letter this.
Canada / US / AUS – sure that would make sense, in fact it’s better than ever for young people for Aus and Canada than 10 years ago, mobility visas and second year stays are much easier.
No one has lost the ability to live and work in the EU. The rules have changed and it may be a bit harder to achieve, but to say you can no longer do it is utter rubbish.
You can still get a job in the EU, if you apply to a role where they give you a visa. Do people really think it’s **impossible** for Australians, Americans, Japanese, Canadians etc to work in the EU 😛
>Working in the rest of Europe was seen by some as a rite of passage
Yeah, privileged kids who can afford to fuck off abroad for a gap year might have done so, but normal people never even considered it a possibility.
They quote that in 2011 400000 Britons were in the EU for over a year, but they quote figures for 15-49 year olds. Probably not all taking very important gap years then.
What this amounts to is fudging stats to act like hundreds of thousands of people are being deprived of some right they give a shit about. The population of the UK according to the 2012 census was 56.1m meaning this 400000 figure is a fraction of the overall population even doing this.
So are they really stating we should be upset about losing a right that less than 1% of the population was even utilising to any great extent? There’s plenty of things wrong with how Brexit was sold to people, but arguing from this point is a terrible idea, because it just smacks of intense privilege to argue that everyone should think the way they do because of a right the overwhelming majority of the country wasn’t using and didn’t care about.
They say this, but out of my friend group, I’m the only one that had the drive to actually go ahead and work overseas for a year. And I’m in my mid 30s, so my friend group absolutely had the opportunity to do this and didn’t.
Also, they can still work abroad. When I did it, it wasnt to an EU country.