Launching rockets indiscriminately at Israeli cities *also* violates international law and can do a heck of a lot more damage than a few grams of explosive hidden in devices used exclusively by terrorists.
Perfidious0Albion on
Israel: *oh you’re still here? Yeah you should probably leave now, it’s about to get a whole lot worse and I don’t really care what you think*
macross1984 on
Israel is just being creative fighting terrorists and by golly it had paid dividends in spades.
ElectroMcGiddys on
UN needs to stop simping for terrorists
nhlfanatical on
Id think that weaponizing devices is about you leaving them out in public. Im unsure how one can claim its about selling devices directly to said non uniformed military.
I.e. id think its about leaving a booby trapped toy out in public that you know a kid would want to pick up and play with (or selling in stores to the public the booby trapped pagers). One can perhaps claim that devices could get out to the public (resale), but that seems unlikely to occur to devices that work on “military radio channels” (the pagers/walkie talkies).
Ex: many hezbollah members carry guns everywhere they go, imagine one could booby trap their guns to explode like the pagers, would it make a difference if they sold said booby trapped guns directly to hezbollah vs pagers? Id argue no (and id think most would agree as well that its not a problem to sell them booby trapped guns) Would it make a difference if they sold the booby trapped guns to the public with the hope hezbollah members would buy them (vs pagers), id again argue no (per my above description, would be problematic).
Since they sold the pagers directly to hezbollah its not a problem from what id think.
Dubsecs- on
Pretty sure the chief simply has to say this but understands nobody cares.
walbeque on
Anything Israel does to protect its sovereignty and its people is against international law according to these idiots. Jews, we don’t expect you to fight back, we expect you to die.
peonoftheeon on
Maybe the UN should focus on not directly participating in Hamas’ bullshit if they expect to be taken seriously.
CyabraForBots on
whichever way you pose it, it was still a targeted attack. its more than you can say for the bombing campaign.
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Monster_Voice on
Strong finger wag… duly noted. Thanks for the input Chief!
Next up… not so ordinary devices!
Your favorite spatula… bomb… a stack of old newspapers… bomb. Jewish spy pigeons… also bombs.
If you’re looking for a laugh, make sure to Google “Jewish spy animals”
TacomaDave93 on
The UN is such a joke these days. Arab countries can do whatever they want to Israel and they look the other way… if not help them. But heaven forbid Israel strikes back and they critique the hell out of them.
FluffyB12 on
The UN is a joke at the best of times.
AriaTheAuraWitch on
Technical’s?
Drones?
Radios are also inherently a weapon just by existence.
Be a bit more clear, and be reasonable.
Rulings need to make sense at all levels. Don’t be a dumbarse.
BigPapiSchlangin on
Don’t care.
dontneedaknow on
What about Drones? This is kind of a joke of a “regulation.”
tengteng23 on
Last time I check, firing rockets from civil building is also an act of terrorism
born62 on
Killing people should be most strongly punished by law! All over the World and for each oerson!
Let’s hope the UN sends out a strong warning to them! /s
thisis_not_throwaway on
I was actually thinking it was super creative and why the heck not responding? Don’t terrorists do similar shit? Does it violate any and everything?
panacuba on
UN. As useless as always.
GOGOblin on
The whole history of Israel is a violation of international law.
glorious_reptile on
Surely ordering civilian items as a military organisation, effectively makes them military items.
MLNerdNmore on
> targeting thousands of Lebanese people using pagers, two-way radios and electronic equipment without their knowledge is a violation of international human rights law, the United Nations human rights chief said Friday.
Is he expecting opposing armies to call eachother up and tell eachother what they’re going to be targeting or attacking? Wtf is this statement? Did he expect Ukraine to call up Russia when they planted explosives in the airfield where they blew up helicopters?
These were communication devices used specifically by Hezbollah, inserted with a very small amount of explosives. It’s not like every communication device going into Lebanon was boobytrapped and then they blew it up hoping it’d hit Hezbollah. This is as targeted as you can get.
Fickle_Competition33 on
Russia has been using Medical Vehicles to carry weapons and I heard nothing from UN.
Caboose2701 on
The UN has never intervened in any genocide. They’re a walking joke. Just look up the countries that have made up the human rights council. And now they simp for terrorists. FOR SHAME.
TronOld_Dumps on
Whew…. At least that puts an end to that.
hamhezhoumyass on
Fuck UN.
DarkAngel900 on
What about “drones”?
AchillesSkywalker on
So no hitting a guy with a chair?
stansfield123 on
Lol. Pagers used by Hezbollah aren’t “ordinary devices”. That law is about devices used by non-combatants.
Hayred on
For anyone interested, [this](https://lieber.westpoint.edu/exploding-pagers-law/) is an interesting commentary on the actual laws at play here. There’s a fair bit more nuance to military law than I know I appreciated.
Visual-Yam952 on
So what you gonna do beside some deepest concers? UN is such a joke
Employ-Personal on
Yeah but, give ‘em props for originality and super James Bond tactics. So, on a normal star-system: 5 for cruelty, 5 for surprise, 5 for effectiveness, 5 for cunning and zero for meeting international law meeting (in a world where two of the UN permanent security council members are either bombing children’s hospitals after an illegal and failed invasion or carrying out a literal genocide against a minority). Give me strength.
Effective-3023 on
Fertilizer & pipes are ordinary everyday stuff that’s used for agriculture aren’t they? Who was it building makeshift rockets again?
if a terrorist or military organization orders something, and you can get inside the supply chain to sabotage the goods that are meant for that organization, then its not a war crime.
(unless the quantum of damage done by the sabotage is more than what’s needed to injure/kill the targeted group.
so putting bombs in Care Bears is bad. but putting a bomb in a care bear that is being delivered to the HAMAS military wing subcommander who wanted it as a surgery companion after his cancer surgery? sure, why not?
VendettaKarma on
Can we talk about just how dangerous of a precedent this really sets on a global scale?
Imagine all of those cars, phones and other tech we import being compromised like this?
That would really be global terrorism.
wsippel on
Good thing they didn’t weaponize “ordinary devices” then, they weaponized communications equipment used by paramilitary forces. UN really ran it’s course, time to shut it down and start fresh.
Darth_Nullus on
UN rights chief… the entire UN as a matter of fact can go to hell for all I care. As a citizen of the region, I’m happy that someone is finally taking out the trash a few thousand at a time.
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Launching rockets indiscriminately at Israeli cities *also* violates international law and can do a heck of a lot more damage than a few grams of explosive hidden in devices used exclusively by terrorists.
Israel: *oh you’re still here? Yeah you should probably leave now, it’s about to get a whole lot worse and I don’t really care what you think*
Israel is just being creative fighting terrorists and by golly it had paid dividends in spades.
UN needs to stop simping for terrorists
Id think that weaponizing devices is about you leaving them out in public. Im unsure how one can claim its about selling devices directly to said non uniformed military.
I.e. id think its about leaving a booby trapped toy out in public that you know a kid would want to pick up and play with (or selling in stores to the public the booby trapped pagers). One can perhaps claim that devices could get out to the public (resale), but that seems unlikely to occur to devices that work on “military radio channels” (the pagers/walkie talkies).
Ex: many hezbollah members carry guns everywhere they go, imagine one could booby trap their guns to explode like the pagers, would it make a difference if they sold said booby trapped guns directly to hezbollah vs pagers? Id argue no (and id think most would agree as well that its not a problem to sell them booby trapped guns) Would it make a difference if they sold the booby trapped guns to the public with the hope hezbollah members would buy them (vs pagers), id again argue no (per my above description, would be problematic).
Since they sold the pagers directly to hezbollah its not a problem from what id think.
Pretty sure the chief simply has to say this but understands nobody cares.
Anything Israel does to protect its sovereignty and its people is against international law according to these idiots. Jews, we don’t expect you to fight back, we expect you to die.
Maybe the UN should focus on not directly participating in Hamas’ bullshit if they expect to be taken seriously.
whichever way you pose it, it was still a targeted attack. its more than you can say for the bombing campaign.
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Strong finger wag… duly noted. Thanks for the input Chief!
Next up… not so ordinary devices!
Your favorite spatula… bomb… a stack of old newspapers… bomb. Jewish spy pigeons… also bombs.
If you’re looking for a laugh, make sure to Google “Jewish spy animals”
The UN is such a joke these days. Arab countries can do whatever they want to Israel and they look the other way… if not help them. But heaven forbid Israel strikes back and they critique the hell out of them.
The UN is a joke at the best of times.
Technical’s?
Drones?
Radios are also inherently a weapon just by existence.
Be a bit more clear, and be reasonable.
Rulings need to make sense at all levels. Don’t be a dumbarse.
Don’t care.
What about Drones? This is kind of a joke of a “regulation.”
Last time I check, firing rockets from civil building is also an act of terrorism
Killing people should be most strongly punished by law! All over the World and for each oerson!
Wait , you mean leaving kids toys with bombs in it, like Hamas (https://nypost.com/2023/12/24/news/israel-finds-explosive-belts-made-for-kids-toy-chests-with-warheads-in-gaza/) does is not ok?
Let’s hope the UN sends out a strong warning to them! /s
I was actually thinking it was super creative and why the heck not responding? Don’t terrorists do similar shit? Does it violate any and everything?
UN. As useless as always.
The whole history of Israel is a violation of international law.
Surely ordering civilian items as a military organisation, effectively makes them military items.
> targeting thousands of Lebanese people using pagers, two-way radios and electronic equipment without their knowledge is a violation of international human rights law, the United Nations human rights chief said Friday.
Is he expecting opposing armies to call eachother up and tell eachother what they’re going to be targeting or attacking? Wtf is this statement? Did he expect Ukraine to call up Russia when they planted explosives in the airfield where they blew up helicopters?
These were communication devices used specifically by Hezbollah, inserted with a very small amount of explosives. It’s not like every communication device going into Lebanon was boobytrapped and then they blew it up hoping it’d hit Hezbollah. This is as targeted as you can get.
Russia has been using Medical Vehicles to carry weapons and I heard nothing from UN.
The UN has never intervened in any genocide. They’re a walking joke. Just look up the countries that have made up the human rights council. And now they simp for terrorists. FOR SHAME.
Whew…. At least that puts an end to that.
Fuck UN.
What about “drones”?
So no hitting a guy with a chair?
Lol. Pagers used by Hezbollah aren’t “ordinary devices”. That law is about devices used by non-combatants.
For anyone interested, [this](https://lieber.westpoint.edu/exploding-pagers-law/) is an interesting commentary on the actual laws at play here. There’s a fair bit more nuance to military law than I know I appreciated.
So what you gonna do beside some deepest concers? UN is such a joke
Yeah but, give ‘em props for originality and super James Bond tactics. So, on a normal star-system: 5 for cruelty, 5 for surprise, 5 for effectiveness, 5 for cunning and zero for meeting international law meeting (in a world where two of the UN permanent security council members are either bombing children’s hospitals after an illegal and failed invasion or carrying out a literal genocide against a minority). Give me strength.
Fertilizer & pipes are ordinary everyday stuff that’s used for agriculture aren’t they? Who was it building makeshift rockets again?
[This opinion piece](https://www.newsweek.com/sorry-aoc-israels-precision-attack-against-hezbollah-was-humane-legal-opinion-1957207) from a human rights attorney pretty clearly shows that this was not a violation of international law per Article 52, as the devices were distributed by Hezbollah for the express purpose of organizing terror activities and were not distributed to the population at large.
if a terrorist or military organization orders something, and you can get inside the supply chain to sabotage the goods that are meant for that organization, then its not a war crime.
(unless the quantum of damage done by the sabotage is more than what’s needed to injure/kill the targeted group.
so putting bombs in Care Bears is bad. but putting a bomb in a care bear that is being delivered to the HAMAS military wing subcommander who wanted it as a surgery companion after his cancer surgery? sure, why not?
Can we talk about just how dangerous of a precedent this really sets on a global scale?
Imagine all of those cars, phones and other tech we import being compromised like this?
That would really be global terrorism.
Good thing they didn’t weaponize “ordinary devices” then, they weaponized communications equipment used by paramilitary forces. UN really ran it’s course, time to shut it down and start fresh.
UN rights chief… the entire UN as a matter of fact can go to hell for all I care. As a citizen of the region, I’m happy that someone is finally taking out the trash a few thousand at a time.
Like making rockets out of pipes?
It is a slippery slope.
Yeah we’ll be eagerly waiting your harsh letter