I agree with one of the parent in the article that attending a protest is not the best way to learn about Indigenous issues and Indigenous activism. Other avenues, such as having a guest speaker would be more productive and ensure focus on the topic at hand, rather than diverge onto issues that is not related, like what happend here.
Blastedsaber on
That’s completely unacceptable. There needs to be actual accountability for this.
ANY political rally is no place for a field trip, especially in the political climate we’re in where they can and do turn violent, becoming things far different then whatever the rally was intended to be at the start.
KingRabbit_ on
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>Videos obtained by the *Sun* depict organizers leading chants like “from Turtle Island for Palestine, occupation is a crime,” with schoolchildren holding signs and chanting along.
This kind of rhetoric parallels the shit York U students were spouting last year:
It’s pretty alarming that people charged with molding the minds of young kids (in this case, 12 and 13 year-olds) are inculcating them in this garbage.
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>In a statement, the TDSB said they understand “issues beyond the main focus of the event” were raised, and that some students were “negatively impacted” through their attendance.
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>“Students should not be participating in organized protests as part of a field trip, and this clarification will be shared with the system,” the statement read. “The TDSB will also be reviewing its field trip procedures to provide guidance that upholds the safety and well-being of students.”
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…and what of the teachers who organized this? Any repercussions there? No, right?
ChimoEngr on
I’d like some info on just how the students ended up participating in the protest. Was it there idea, because fun? Did the teachers take them there? Did the students get out of hand and join in?
However they ended up there, the parents who feel that their kids being at a protest, had a simple solution to the matter, don’t sign the permission slips. Any parent who signed them, and is now angry that their child was at a protest, should be slapping themselves upside the head.
Longtimelurker2575 on
This is ridiculous and whoever organized it should be fired for pushing their particular views and ideology onto students. We are supposed to be educating them not indoctrinating. Bring in an appropriate guest speaker, don’t participate in controversial protests.
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demonlicious on
it`s not anti-israel rally. it’s anti terrorism rally. the terrorism is perpetrated by a regime that happens to be inside israel.
palestenians supporters need smarter messaging. don`t want to see a single israeli flag or mention of Israel. it should be IDF and right wing party and leaders’s flags they step on.
WeightImaginary2632 on
Ya, there should of been a speaker from Grassy Narrows First Nation that came to the school to talk about their struggles. The children do not need to go to rallies or protests with the school. What would of happened if something turned ugly there at the rally? Schools are meant to teach and not be involved in political activism. Don’t get me wrong the kids definitely should learn about political activism, but in a safe place like school.
GoldenHairPygmalion on
I consider myself socialist and quite radical but even I think it would be terrible to use a field trip to force children into an environment that could very quickly turn unsafe because of the cops or violent counter-protestors.
jkozuch on
If my kid had been taken to a political rally, I’d be furious. (Hell, I’m already furious.)
This kind of performative bullshit has no place in the education system.
There are better ways to educate children about what’s going on in the world. Taking kids to something like this isn’t the play.
Have the teachers been held accountable?
(Nevermind, I already know the answer.)
IntheTimeofMonsters on
I’m pro-Palestine. I believe Israel is committing genocide.
That said, the school board takes my kid to a Holocaust education event that then becomes a pro-Israel rally would piss me off. As would this. Completely unacceptable.
CaptainCanusa on
I get parents not wanting their kids to “participate” in a protest without authorization I *guess*, but the rest of this is obviously fear mongering hyperbole you expect from random parents and The Sun.
This part fucking sucks though:
> Spadina-Fort York MP Kevin Vuong called on those responsible to be held accountable and fired.
> “They lied, they put children in danger, and they made a mockery of Canada’s efforts of reconciliation with a national day of mourning quickly approaching,” he said. “What the TDSB teachers did was deceitful and unconscionable.”
Sitting MP’s calling for teachers to be fired? The lying teachers put children in danger with their unconscionable actions?
Good to see our leaders are keeping a cool head on this one and clearly acting in good faith.
linkass on
“all education is political; teaching is never a neutral act”
Paulo Friere 1968 book Pedagogy of the Oppressed:p(.19).
Keep in mind that is the 3rd most cited book in social sciences
x6o21h6cx on
I’m a teacher. This type of virtue signaling is so prevalent among teachers. I had a teacher praising the Starbucks protests and how great it was to stick it to Israel. She had three Jewish kids in her class. Drove me up the wall.
MurdaMooch on
I have a feeling if this protests had any sort of conversative leaning the comment section would be much different.
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I agree with one of the parent in the article that attending a protest is not the best way to learn about Indigenous issues and Indigenous activism. Other avenues, such as having a guest speaker would be more productive and ensure focus on the topic at hand, rather than diverge onto issues that is not related, like what happend here.
That’s completely unacceptable. There needs to be actual accountability for this.
ANY political rally is no place for a field trip, especially in the political climate we’re in where they can and do turn violent, becoming things far different then whatever the rally was intended to be at the start.
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>Videos obtained by the *Sun* depict organizers leading chants like “from Turtle Island for Palestine, occupation is a crime,” with schoolchildren holding signs and chanting along.
This kind of rhetoric parallels the shit York U students were spouting last year:
[https://www.cp24.com/news/abhorrent-york-university-condemns-student-union-groups-for-statement-appearing-to-glorify-hamas-1.6600450](https://www.cp24.com/news/abhorrent-york-university-condemns-student-union-groups-for-statement-appearing-to-glorify-hamas-1.6600450)
It’s pretty alarming that people charged with molding the minds of young kids (in this case, 12 and 13 year-olds) are inculcating them in this garbage.
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>In a statement, the TDSB said they understand “issues beyond the main focus of the event” were raised, and that some students were “negatively impacted” through their attendance.
>
>“Students should not be participating in organized protests as part of a field trip, and this clarification will be shared with the system,” the statement read. “The TDSB will also be reviewing its field trip procedures to provide guidance that upholds the safety and well-being of students.”
>
…and what of the teachers who organized this? Any repercussions there? No, right?
I’d like some info on just how the students ended up participating in the protest. Was it there idea, because fun? Did the teachers take them there? Did the students get out of hand and join in?
However they ended up there, the parents who feel that their kids being at a protest, had a simple solution to the matter, don’t sign the permission slips. Any parent who signed them, and is now angry that their child was at a protest, should be slapping themselves upside the head.
This is ridiculous and whoever organized it should be fired for pushing their particular views and ideology onto students. We are supposed to be educating them not indoctrinating. Bring in an appropriate guest speaker, don’t participate in controversial protests.
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it`s not anti-israel rally. it’s anti terrorism rally. the terrorism is perpetrated by a regime that happens to be inside israel.
palestenians supporters need smarter messaging. don`t want to see a single israeli flag or mention of Israel. it should be IDF and right wing party and leaders’s flags they step on.
Ya, there should of been a speaker from Grassy Narrows First Nation that came to the school to talk about their struggles. The children do not need to go to rallies or protests with the school. What would of happened if something turned ugly there at the rally? Schools are meant to teach and not be involved in political activism. Don’t get me wrong the kids definitely should learn about political activism, but in a safe place like school.
I consider myself socialist and quite radical but even I think it would be terrible to use a field trip to force children into an environment that could very quickly turn unsafe because of the cops or violent counter-protestors.
If my kid had been taken to a political rally, I’d be furious. (Hell, I’m already furious.)
This kind of performative bullshit has no place in the education system.
There are better ways to educate children about what’s going on in the world. Taking kids to something like this isn’t the play.
Have the teachers been held accountable?
(Nevermind, I already know the answer.)
I’m pro-Palestine. I believe Israel is committing genocide.
That said, the school board takes my kid to a Holocaust education event that then becomes a pro-Israel rally would piss me off. As would this. Completely unacceptable.
I get parents not wanting their kids to “participate” in a protest without authorization I *guess*, but the rest of this is obviously fear mongering hyperbole you expect from random parents and The Sun.
This part fucking sucks though:
> Spadina-Fort York MP Kevin Vuong called on those responsible to be held accountable and fired.
> “They lied, they put children in danger, and they made a mockery of Canada’s efforts of reconciliation with a national day of mourning quickly approaching,” he said. “What the TDSB teachers did was deceitful and unconscionable.”
Sitting MP’s calling for teachers to be fired? The lying teachers put children in danger with their unconscionable actions?
Good to see our leaders are keeping a cool head on this one and clearly acting in good faith.
“all education is political; teaching is never a neutral act”
Paulo Friere 1968 book Pedagogy of the Oppressed:p(.19).
Keep in mind that is the 3rd most cited book in social sciences
I’m a teacher. This type of virtue signaling is so prevalent among teachers. I had a teacher praising the Starbucks protests and how great it was to stick it to Israel. She had three Jewish kids in her class. Drove me up the wall.
I have a feeling if this protests had any sort of conversative leaning the comment section would be much different.