“Loan”… business is business, war is just business
PsychLegalMind on
>The funding mechanism stops short of seizing the frozen Russian assets outright. The EU has been worried that such a move would discourage other countries from keeping their assets in the bloc.
That is why U.S. is not getting involved. Besides, U.S. has very little of the Russian assets on its territories. EU is trying to help Ukraine continue to survive at a critical time before the election in the U.S. and the risk of a Trump presidency which may leave EU alone responsible for Ukraine.
When approved and delivered in some form, this will provide a cushion of sorts for Ukraine to carry on for a few months beyond November, a time of significant importance including meeting energy needs during the winter.
WiseHedgehog2098 on
It’s about time
wrestlingfan007 on
“This theme has been that Americans are admittedly rich, that Americans have considerable industrial power- but that Americans are soft and decadent, that they cannot and will not unite and work and fight. From Berlin, Rome, and Tokyo we have been described as a Nation of weaklings- “playboys”–who would hire British soldiers, or Russian soldiers, or Chinese soldiers to do our fighting for us. Let them repeat that now! Let them tell that to General MacArthur and his men. Let them tell that to the sailors who today are hitting hard in the far waters of the Pacific. Let them tell that to the boys in the Flying Fortresses. Let them tell that to the Marines!” – FDR
Who knows, maybe someday the US will go to war with NATO.
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Bandeezio on
Most of the billions in assets are in Germany, France and Belgium. The US gets the headlines, but they don’t actually have many Russian assets, which makes sense since Russia is much closer to Europe.
US_Sugar_Official on
Were they waiting for an invitation?
Blood-Minister on
Why is Europe not sending their soldiers to Ukraine? They should if they really care about Ukraine. Unless they are just …..
dannyboy1901 on
Headline should be “Europe starting to catch up to US funding”
TearsOfTheOrphan on
Moves ahead? More like slightly catches up in the support that’s been being provided by the U.S.
XxCOZxX on
Good.
We over here playing politics with peoples lives and it’s pathetic!
Once the election is done, things will more than likely be different. Biden and his administration are just trying to keep anything that could be seen as bad, out of the public eye.
I hate that this is how modern American has to operate with this Trump era. Facts become lies, lies become alternative facts, and nobody knows what’s going on.
totally_anomalous on
And Europe will continue to move forward without the US as long as the banana republicans continue to act like spoiled toddlers.
Thi_rural_juror on
Enjoyed the poisoned gift
gizmo78 on
> Europe moves ahead without U.S.
Amazing how countries will suddenly find their wallets once the U.S. stops reflexively paying for everything.
The U.S. should learn a lesson from this, but we won’t. We’ll keep borrowing from some countries, and giving that money away to others, all while we drown in an endless black hole of debt.
kluthage421 on
Good. We’ve been footing the war bills forever.
DrCueMaster on
Good. The US doesn’t need to be first in everything with regards to aiding Ukraine. The rest of the world needs to continue to show a unified front against Russian aggression.
OkayStory on
I don’t see the big deal, we’ve given them hundreds of billions of dollars already. Let them move forward as they wish. Please for the love of god.
BowlerLongjumping877 on
Honest question. The US doesn’t want Ukraine striking into Russia with US weapons (given to them?) So could EU lend the money to Ukraine, Ukraine buy the weapons from US? Or is every purchase/use of US weapons under the same rule? Lots of info on this stuff lately, trying to make sense of it all…
Agt16hopp on
Good, it’s about time they start pulling their weight
natty1212 on
Good, keep going.
orcusgrasshopperfog on
EU needs to learn to stand on their own feet. A weak front breeds wars. Fire up the furnaces. Make even the thought of all out war so costly a price that no one dare to contemplate it.
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“Loan”… business is business, war is just business
>The funding mechanism stops short of seizing the frozen Russian assets outright. The EU has been worried that such a move would discourage other countries from keeping their assets in the bloc.
That is why U.S. is not getting involved. Besides, U.S. has very little of the Russian assets on its territories. EU is trying to help Ukraine continue to survive at a critical time before the election in the U.S. and the risk of a Trump presidency which may leave EU alone responsible for Ukraine.
When approved and delivered in some form, this will provide a cushion of sorts for Ukraine to carry on for a few months beyond November, a time of significant importance including meeting energy needs during the winter.
It’s about time
“This theme has been that Americans are admittedly rich, that Americans have considerable industrial power- but that Americans are soft and decadent, that they cannot and will not unite and work and fight. From Berlin, Rome, and Tokyo we have been described as a Nation of weaklings- “playboys”–who would hire British soldiers, or Russian soldiers, or Chinese soldiers to do our fighting for us. Let them repeat that now! Let them tell that to General MacArthur and his men. Let them tell that to the sailors who today are hitting hard in the far waters of the Pacific. Let them tell that to the boys in the Flying Fortresses. Let them tell that to the Marines!” – FDR
https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/fireside-chat-6
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Who knows, maybe someday the US will go to war with NATO.
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Most of the billions in assets are in Germany, France and Belgium. The US gets the headlines, but they don’t actually have many Russian assets, which makes sense since Russia is much closer to Europe.
Were they waiting for an invitation?
Why is Europe not sending their soldiers to Ukraine? They should if they really care about Ukraine. Unless they are just …..
Headline should be “Europe starting to catch up to US funding”
Moves ahead? More like slightly catches up in the support that’s been being provided by the U.S.
Good.
We over here playing politics with peoples lives and it’s pathetic!
Once the election is done, things will more than likely be different. Biden and his administration are just trying to keep anything that could be seen as bad, out of the public eye.
I hate that this is how modern American has to operate with this Trump era. Facts become lies, lies become alternative facts, and nobody knows what’s going on.
And Europe will continue to move forward without the US as long as the banana republicans continue to act like spoiled toddlers.
Enjoyed the poisoned gift
> Europe moves ahead without U.S.
Amazing how countries will suddenly find their wallets once the U.S. stops reflexively paying for everything.
The U.S. should learn a lesson from this, but we won’t. We’ll keep borrowing from some countries, and giving that money away to others, all while we drown in an endless black hole of debt.
Good. We’ve been footing the war bills forever.
Good. The US doesn’t need to be first in everything with regards to aiding Ukraine. The rest of the world needs to continue to show a unified front against Russian aggression.
I don’t see the big deal, we’ve given them hundreds of billions of dollars already. Let them move forward as they wish. Please for the love of god.
Honest question. The US doesn’t want Ukraine striking into Russia with US weapons (given to them?) So could EU lend the money to Ukraine, Ukraine buy the weapons from US? Or is every purchase/use of US weapons under the same rule? Lots of info on this stuff lately, trying to make sense of it all…
Good, it’s about time they start pulling their weight
Good, keep going.
EU needs to learn to stand on their own feet. A weak front breeds wars. Fire up the furnaces. Make even the thought of all out war so costly a price that no one dare to contemplate it.