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IronFistBen on
Entire exchange from the article:
>“There’s an obsession here with focusing on 2020,” Mr. Vance said in the interview. “I’m much more worried about what happened after 2020, which is a wide-open border, groceries that are unaffordable.”
>When pressed a second time, Mr. Vance pivoted to a complicated counterargument: He suggested Mr. Trump would have won more votes in 2020 had social media companies not limited posts about a New York Post story about the contents of a laptop that belonged to Hunter Biden, President Biden’s son. Trump allies had maintained that documents on the laptop linked President Biden to corrupt business dealings, but those claims were unfounded.
>“Senator Vance, I’m going to ask you again,” Ms. Garcia-Navarro said. “Did Donald Trump lose the 2020 election?”
>“Did big technology companies censor a story that independent studies have suggested would have cost Trump millions of votes?” Mr. Vance replied.
>“Senator Vance,” Ms. Garcia-Navarro continued. “I’m going to ask you again, did Donald Trump lose the 2020 election?”
>“And I’ve answered your question with another question,” Mr. Vance said. “You answer my question and I’ll answer yours.”
>On her fifth request for a yes-or-no answer, Ms. Garcia-Navarro pointed out that there was “no proof, legal or otherwise,” of election fraud.
>Mr. Vance dismissed that as “a slogan.”
>“I’m not worried about this slogan that people throw, ‘Well, every court case went this way,’” Mr. Vance said. “I’m talking about something very discrete — a problem of censorship in this country that I do think affected things in 2020.”
Yousoggyyojimbo on
He’s already said in the last week that Trump won the 2020 election. I’m glad people are still asking him this, but he did answer it one time and it should be a bigger deal the way he answered it.
armchairmegalomaniac on
Anyone who hesitates about stating this fact is not fit to serve.
WoofWoofster on
Thiel and Musk must have either paid Vance a fortune or they have video of Vance in a couch factory.
Krosis95 on
I mean, he has said the same thing about the 2020 election so many times that, much like a child not wanting to admit that they were caught lying, he knows he would get in even more trouble for admitting that he lied.
In short: he trapped himself.
RoachBeBrutal on
Disqualified. FJD.
Uasked2 on
Why would you ask?
cherrybounce on
This isn’t getting us anywhere. Trump voters do not care about this. I don’t even know if swing voters care.
Federal_Drummer7105 on
I watched this, and the most infuriating things:
* I’m not focused on the past, I’m focused on the future. Now let me ask why tech companies in the past censored people.
* “And I’ve answered your question with another question,” Mr. Vance said. “You answer my question and I’ll answer yours.”
* No motherfucker! You didn’t answer the question with a question – you asked a question that had nothing to do with the original question!
* “I’m not worried about this slogan that people throw, ‘Well, every court case went this way,’” Mr. Vance said.
* Losing. Court. Cases. Is. Not. A. Slogan. It. Is. A. Fact. This is a Harvard trained man of the law who says court case loses are a slogan?
Anyone who watches this and says “Ha ha he trolled her” are the same people Satre spoke of with the antisemites – how they use words to indimitate others but don’t actually give them meaning because they want to play and cause their enemies harm with their words.
DrrtVonnegut on
It’s not that he doesn’t believe Trump lost, it’s that he doesn’t wanna lose the VP nomination, and Trump would can him if he admitted it.
forceblast on
He already said he thinks Trump won. It’s on video. Why are we still debating this? He’s another election denying scumbag. End of story.
55redditor55 on
I mean, that’s why he got the job?
inick2005i on
He’s not going to give Democrats a “gotcha” clip. *Not* saying anything, is better than saying “Yes, he won.” or “No, he didn’t.” It’s a lose lose question.
phigo50 on
Talk louder about tech companies and censorship on the day it came out how wedded to Trump Musk is.
the_atmosphere on
they should ask him if trump won
copingstoic on
These guys are so emboldened now. Imagine if you say the most outrageous things and the polls keep swinging in your favor, you would amplify the absurdity. Thanks to the stupid MAGA and more unfortunately, the insidious silent MAGA, these guys just spew lies, deflect and distort every matter with IMPUNITY. Cynical take I know, but this guy will most likely be the next VP.
SBRH33 on
“I answered your question with a question… answer MY question first and I’ll answer yours”
What a fucking weirdo.
> Generally, answering a direct question with a question is considered poor communication etiquette as it can be perceived as evasive, dismissive, or a way to avoid giving a clear answer; however, there are situations where it can be appropriate if used carefully, like to clarify the question or encourage further discussion.
JD Vance is an OSU alum and a Yale law educated pile of dog shit. He’s an embarrassment to his Alma matter, and is a national disgrace. His wife should be ashamed and divorce the shit out of him like right now.
manwhowasnthere on
And after you read about JD’s crying session about supposed censorship, you can go read this:
> Former President Trump’s campaign worked with Elon Musk’s X to prevent links to hacked campaign materials from circulating on the social media platform last month, according to The New York Times.
It’s always projection with republicans, always.
R_Lennox on
He wants that job *bad*. When Trump loses again, watch J.D. rise from the ashes like a phoenix, clutching Project 2025 for the next time.
SkillFullyNotTrue on
Just in case another January 6th happens the insurrectionist with guy-liner and full face mask is Shady Vance.
Seroto9 on
There are too many reasons to count why Trump is unqualified to be president again, but this is just another one to be added to the list.
ekb2023 on
>“I’m not worried about this slogan that people throw, ‘Well, every court case went this way,’
That’s not a slogan. That’s reality. That’s what happened. Holy shit. This guy is lost in the sauce.
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Entire exchange from the article:
>“There’s an obsession here with focusing on 2020,” Mr. Vance said in the interview. “I’m much more worried about what happened after 2020, which is a wide-open border, groceries that are unaffordable.”
>When pressed a second time, Mr. Vance pivoted to a complicated counterargument: He suggested Mr. Trump would have won more votes in 2020 had social media companies not limited posts about a New York Post story about the contents of a laptop that belonged to Hunter Biden, President Biden’s son. Trump allies had maintained that documents on the laptop linked President Biden to corrupt business dealings, but those claims were unfounded.
>“Senator Vance, I’m going to ask you again,” Ms. Garcia-Navarro said. “Did Donald Trump lose the 2020 election?”
>“Did big technology companies censor a story that independent studies have suggested would have cost Trump millions of votes?” Mr. Vance replied.
>“Senator Vance,” Ms. Garcia-Navarro continued. “I’m going to ask you again, did Donald Trump lose the 2020 election?”
>“And I’ve answered your question with another question,” Mr. Vance said. “You answer my question and I’ll answer yours.”
>On her fifth request for a yes-or-no answer, Ms. Garcia-Navarro pointed out that there was “no proof, legal or otherwise,” of election fraud.
>Mr. Vance dismissed that as “a slogan.”
>“I’m not worried about this slogan that people throw, ‘Well, every court case went this way,’” Mr. Vance said. “I’m talking about something very discrete — a problem of censorship in this country that I do think affected things in 2020.”
He’s already said in the last week that Trump won the 2020 election. I’m glad people are still asking him this, but he did answer it one time and it should be a bigger deal the way he answered it.
Anyone who hesitates about stating this fact is not fit to serve.
Thiel and Musk must have either paid Vance a fortune or they have video of Vance in a couch factory.
I mean, he has said the same thing about the 2020 election so many times that, much like a child not wanting to admit that they were caught lying, he knows he would get in even more trouble for admitting that he lied.
In short: he trapped himself.
Disqualified. FJD.
Why would you ask?
This isn’t getting us anywhere. Trump voters do not care about this. I don’t even know if swing voters care.
I watched this, and the most infuriating things:
* I’m not focused on the past, I’m focused on the future. Now let me ask why tech companies in the past censored people.
* “And I’ve answered your question with another question,” Mr. Vance said. “You answer my question and I’ll answer yours.”
* No motherfucker! You didn’t answer the question with a question – you asked a question that had nothing to do with the original question!
* “I’m not worried about this slogan that people throw, ‘Well, every court case went this way,’” Mr. Vance said.
* Losing. Court. Cases. Is. Not. A. Slogan. It. Is. A. Fact. This is a Harvard trained man of the law who says court case loses are a slogan?
Anyone who watches this and says “Ha ha he trolled her” are the same people Satre spoke of with the antisemites – how they use words to indimitate others but don’t actually give them meaning because they want to play and cause their enemies harm with their words.
It’s not that he doesn’t believe Trump lost, it’s that he doesn’t wanna lose the VP nomination, and Trump would can him if he admitted it.
He already said he thinks Trump won. It’s on video. Why are we still debating this? He’s another election denying scumbag. End of story.
I mean, that’s why he got the job?
He’s not going to give Democrats a “gotcha” clip. *Not* saying anything, is better than saying “Yes, he won.” or “No, he didn’t.” It’s a lose lose question.
Talk louder about tech companies and censorship on the day it came out how wedded to Trump Musk is.
they should ask him if trump won
These guys are so emboldened now. Imagine if you say the most outrageous things and the polls keep swinging in your favor, you would amplify the absurdity. Thanks to the stupid MAGA and more unfortunately, the insidious silent MAGA, these guys just spew lies, deflect and distort every matter with IMPUNITY. Cynical take I know, but this guy will most likely be the next VP.
“I answered your question with a question… answer MY question first and I’ll answer yours”
What a fucking weirdo.
> Generally, answering a direct question with a question is considered poor communication etiquette as it can be perceived as evasive, dismissive, or a way to avoid giving a clear answer; however, there are situations where it can be appropriate if used carefully, like to clarify the question or encourage further discussion.
JD Vance is an OSU alum and a Yale law educated pile of dog shit. He’s an embarrassment to his Alma matter, and is a national disgrace. His wife should be ashamed and divorce the shit out of him like right now.
And after you read about JD’s crying session about supposed censorship, you can go read this:
https://thehill.com/policy/technology/4929125-trump-campaign-musk-coordinated-to-stop-hacked-material-on-x-report/
> Former President Trump’s campaign worked with Elon Musk’s X to prevent links to hacked campaign materials from circulating on the social media platform last month, according to The New York Times.
It’s always projection with republicans, always.
He wants that job *bad*. When Trump loses again, watch J.D. rise from the ashes like a phoenix, clutching Project 2025 for the next time.
Just in case another January 6th happens the insurrectionist with guy-liner and full face mask is Shady Vance.
There are too many reasons to count why Trump is unqualified to be president again, but this is just another one to be added to the list.
>“I’m not worried about this slogan that people throw, ‘Well, every court case went this way,’
That’s not a slogan. That’s reality. That’s what happened. Holy shit. This guy is lost in the sauce.
Dude is slippier than a Diddy party.