Being mad is like the #1 defining Republican characteristic.
Road_Whorrior on
I mean this sincerely, MAGAS…
Facts don’t care about your feelings.
twovles31 on
He lied all day, CBS couldn’t let that one slide, as it hurts Haitian human beings and the city of Springfield with bomb threats.
SubjectNo5281 on
Of course they are.
Being fact checked is like kryptonite for conservatives.
They operate in their own crazy little world of echo chambers where all the deluded stuff they were told about how their in group is the best and the others are scary and bad is considered gospel, and anybody saying anything to the contrary is a deep state plant out to get them.
Fact checking the insanity in real time is like someone slapping them across the face and forcing them to deal with a small dose of reality, even if it’s just for a few minutes, and it’s fucking horrible for them. I’d be mad too if I spent most of life brainwashing myself on purpose and then someone came along and questioned the brainwashing.
Apprehensive-Face-81 on
It wasn’t even a fact check – they just made sure everyone at home understood the legal status of the immigrants both candidates were referring to.
a9JDvXLWHumjaC on
So the gop hates facts, truth, evidence, and an orderly society.
Which means the gop loves chaos, lies, racism, hatred, and destruction.
Makes sense then, that the gop choose trump to spearhead their P2025 plan to destroy America.
RandoCollision on
One particularly interesting moment that many may have missed was when Vance screamed into the microphones:
“The government is being run by a race of alien Jewish lizard people who are using gigantic seed pods to replace Americans with zombies from Mexico and Haiti. If you’re watching this debate, don’t fall asleep! That’s when they get you! They’re coming for you!! They are coming for us all!!”
“Senator, that is not true.”
“?! Why are you only fact checking me? That’s against the debate rules.”
JubalHarshaw23 on
“Jesus! If you aren’t gonna let us lie, What’s Next? You won’t let us rig elections? Where does it end?!?!?!?”
— Republicans everywhere
citizenjones on
I knew that, although it was warranted, that the Right would make a big deal out of it to make up for the fact that Vance was lying so much.
hurdurBoop on
>Hatians Eating Dogs is our entire strategy. Give them HED and they’ll vote for you every time.
~JD “Whatever Sounds Human” Vance
Yousoggyyojimbo on
I had one arguing with me last night that they aren’t legal, and when they got hit with proof they were they started ranting like they were about to have a stroke and insulting everybody they could see.
The guy started going off about “Kamala’s App” that grants people immediate residency status.
These folks are crazy.
BringOn25A on
What does it say about a political party that easily verifiable facts are so threatening and offensive to them?
gnarby_thrash on
Crying little shits
Squirrel_Chucks on
Megyn Kelly was more concise: “F you CBS – how DARE YOU,” she wrote on X.
Says the woman fired from NBC for saying blackface was OK.
I don’t think she should be listened to when it comes to appropriate on air conduct.
Here are some things Kelly said when hosting a 2015 debate of Republican primary hopefuls. I think all of these were directed at Trump?
>“Would you really let a mother die rather than have an abortion?”
>”When did you actually become a Republican?”
>“You’ve called women you don’t like fat pigs, dogs, slobs and disgusting animals…”
Trump’s reaction was later to suggest Kelly was getting period blood all over the place.
Compared to this the CBS mods were not outrageous at all, but the goals are on wheels for Kelly and her ilk, so…
ranchoparksteve on
I see it as CBS not wanting the debate to be a platform for hate speech. If Vance can’t avoid defamatory propaganda then that’s not CBS’s problem.
Toadfinger on
So Republicans bet the ranch on Haitians eating pets? Lol!
LandSharkUSRT on
Fascism is really struggling with the internet and reality in general.
Dogzirra on
Vance admitted on interview that the story was “created” to focus attention on immigration, and continues to push the same lies.
Springfield is under attack with fake bomb threats, personal threats, and threats of schools causing closings
This, because of deliberate, calculated stories.
As a former teacher, seeing how children are affected, only have words that would get me banned.
Vance did not win this debate. He instead, motivated a GOTV against everything MAGA.
digitaldisease on
Was I hallucinating when he kind of ranted about misinformation being censored was a bad thing?
Earguy on
Fuck their feelings.
deJuice_sc on
Q: Trump lost in 2020, yes or no?
A: I grew up very poor and my mama was an addict, in school I knew many girls that were having sex. After enlisting in the Marine Corps I was told to be a Public Affairs specialist and then I became a US Senator and called Trump a Nazi.
Rude_Tie4674 on
I wouldn’t ever vote for a candidate who refused to be fact checked.
autotldr on
This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.salon.com/2024/10/02/are-extremely-mad-that-cbs-fact-checked-jd-vances-lies-about-haitians/) reduced by 81%. (I’m a bot)
*****
> Republicans are crying foul after CBS' Face the Nation anchor Margaret Brennan, one of two debate moderators for the vice presidential showdown on Tuesday, fact-checked false claims by Sen. JD Vance, R-Ohio, that "Illegal immigration" was the root cause of a crisis in Springfield, Ohio.
> In this case, Vance repeated his claim about Haitian immigrants early in the debate, prompting Brennan to interject that many Haitian migrants had "Legal status." Vance then complained that "The rules were that you were not going to fact check me" before trying to explain that the "Illegal immigrants" could apply for asylum through the CBP One application and be granted legal status by the federal government.
> "If there's one thing Vance has learned from Trump, it's that lying to get ahead is OK," former CBS Evening News anchor Dan Rather wrote on Substack.
He admitted he was lying IMMEDIATELY after being fact checked. But it’s the fact check that is the issue?
Meb2x on
Republicans have become so extreme that they’re now attacking facts. They literally think that fact-checking is liberal bias. Vance literally tried to defend misinformation last night instead of admitting that Trump lost the 2020 election. We can’t allow people that hate facts to lead this country
b1llypilgrim on
If they allowed that lie to be amplified by their network then they would have exposed themselves to a lawsuit. They aren’t that stupid.
CareHistorical7760 on
What happened to “facts don’t care about your feelings “….lol
PecanPizzaPie on
Let’s not forget this little nugget from Vance at the debate.
*”And it’s Kamala Harris saying that rather than debate and persuade her fellow Americans, she’d like to censor people who engage in misinformation. I think that is a much bigger threat to democracy than anything that we’ve seen in this country in the last four years, in the last 40 years.”*
So he is saying that a big threat to democracy is stopping people from spreading bullshit.
Etzell on
JD Vance and Republicans are significantly more upset about their lies being called out than they are about people making bomb threats at schools and government buildings in JD Vance’s own state.
Mountain___Goat on
Is that even a fact check?
PontificatinPlatypus on
“We were told our lies would go out unchallenged.”
Radiant-Specific969 on
How dare CBS not allow Vance to lie with impunity!
stonge1302 on
Wallowing in lies is easier than to recognize how crazy racist you are, I guess.
undermind84 on
JD Vance is eating the pets….
scissor415 on
Doubt we’ll ever see a republican participate in a presidential or vice presidential debate again. They can’t risk the MAGA cult having their collective cognitive dissonance compromised by basic fact checks.
Sure_Quality5354 on
The funny thing about facts is that they are ideologically neutral. Any political party is capable of telling lies. So if the facts are not on your side, that is not a signal of “political bias”, its a sign that you are wrong
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Vance lies. News at 10.
Being mad is like the #1 defining Republican characteristic.
I mean this sincerely, MAGAS…
Facts don’t care about your feelings.
He lied all day, CBS couldn’t let that one slide, as it hurts Haitian human beings and the city of Springfield with bomb threats.
Of course they are.
Being fact checked is like kryptonite for conservatives.
They operate in their own crazy little world of echo chambers where all the deluded stuff they were told about how their in group is the best and the others are scary and bad is considered gospel, and anybody saying anything to the contrary is a deep state plant out to get them.
Fact checking the insanity in real time is like someone slapping them across the face and forcing them to deal with a small dose of reality, even if it’s just for a few minutes, and it’s fucking horrible for them. I’d be mad too if I spent most of life brainwashing myself on purpose and then someone came along and questioned the brainwashing.
It wasn’t even a fact check – they just made sure everyone at home understood the legal status of the immigrants both candidates were referring to.
So the gop hates facts, truth, evidence, and an orderly society.
Which means the gop loves chaos, lies, racism, hatred, and destruction.
Makes sense then, that the gop choose trump to spearhead their P2025 plan to destroy America.
One particularly interesting moment that many may have missed was when Vance screamed into the microphones:
“The government is being run by a race of alien Jewish lizard people who are using gigantic seed pods to replace Americans with zombies from Mexico and Haiti. If you’re watching this debate, don’t fall asleep! That’s when they get you! They’re coming for you!! They are coming for us all!!”
“Senator, that is not true.”
“?! Why are you only fact checking me? That’s against the debate rules.”
“Jesus! If you aren’t gonna let us lie, What’s Next? You won’t let us rig elections? Where does it end?!?!?!?”
— Republicans everywhere
I knew that, although it was warranted, that the Right would make a big deal out of it to make up for the fact that Vance was lying so much.
>Hatians Eating Dogs is our entire strategy. Give them HED and they’ll vote for you every time.
~JD “Whatever Sounds Human” Vance
I had one arguing with me last night that they aren’t legal, and when they got hit with proof they were they started ranting like they were about to have a stroke and insulting everybody they could see.
The guy started going off about “Kamala’s App” that grants people immediate residency status.
These folks are crazy.
What does it say about a political party that easily verifiable facts are so threatening and offensive to them?
Crying little shits
Megyn Kelly was more concise: “F you CBS – how DARE YOU,” she wrote on X.
Says the woman fired from NBC for saying blackface was OK.
I don’t think she should be listened to when it comes to appropriate on air conduct.
Here are some things Kelly said when hosting a 2015 debate of Republican primary hopefuls. I think all of these were directed at Trump?
>“Would you really let a mother die rather than have an abortion?”
>”When did you actually become a Republican?”
>“You’ve called women you don’t like fat pigs, dogs, slobs and disgusting animals…”
Trump’s reaction was later to suggest Kelly was getting period blood all over the place.
Compared to this the CBS mods were not outrageous at all, but the goals are on wheels for Kelly and her ilk, so…
I see it as CBS not wanting the debate to be a platform for hate speech. If Vance can’t avoid defamatory propaganda then that’s not CBS’s problem.
So Republicans bet the ranch on Haitians eating pets? Lol!
Fascism is really struggling with the internet and reality in general.
Vance admitted on interview that the story was “created” to focus attention on immigration, and continues to push the same lies.
Springfield is under attack with fake bomb threats, personal threats, and threats of schools causing closings
This, because of deliberate, calculated stories.
As a former teacher, seeing how children are affected, only have words that would get me banned.
Vance did not win this debate. He instead, motivated a GOTV against everything MAGA.
Was I hallucinating when he kind of ranted about misinformation being censored was a bad thing?
Fuck their feelings.
Q: Trump lost in 2020, yes or no?
A: I grew up very poor and my mama was an addict, in school I knew many girls that were having sex. After enlisting in the Marine Corps I was told to be a Public Affairs specialist and then I became a US Senator and called Trump a Nazi.
I wouldn’t ever vote for a candidate who refused to be fact checked.
This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.salon.com/2024/10/02/are-extremely-mad-that-cbs-fact-checked-jd-vances-lies-about-haitians/) reduced by 81%. (I’m a bot)
*****
> Republicans are crying foul after CBS' Face the Nation anchor Margaret Brennan, one of two debate moderators for the vice presidential showdown on Tuesday, fact-checked false claims by Sen. JD Vance, R-Ohio, that "Illegal immigration" was the root cause of a crisis in Springfield, Ohio.
> In this case, Vance repeated his claim about Haitian immigrants early in the debate, prompting Brennan to interject that many Haitian migrants had "Legal status." Vance then complained that "The rules were that you were not going to fact check me" before trying to explain that the "Illegal immigrants" could apply for asylum through the CBP One application and be granted legal status by the federal government.
> "If there's one thing Vance has learned from Trump, it's that lying to get ahead is OK," former CBS Evening News anchor Dan Rather wrote on Substack.
*****
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He admitted he was lying IMMEDIATELY after being fact checked. But it’s the fact check that is the issue?
Republicans have become so extreme that they’re now attacking facts. They literally think that fact-checking is liberal bias. Vance literally tried to defend misinformation last night instead of admitting that Trump lost the 2020 election. We can’t allow people that hate facts to lead this country
If they allowed that lie to be amplified by their network then they would have exposed themselves to a lawsuit. They aren’t that stupid.
What happened to “facts don’t care about your feelings “….lol
Let’s not forget this little nugget from Vance at the debate.
*”And it’s Kamala Harris saying that rather than debate and persuade her fellow Americans, she’d like to censor people who engage in misinformation. I think that is a much bigger threat to democracy than anything that we’ve seen in this country in the last four years, in the last 40 years.”*
So he is saying that a big threat to democracy is stopping people from spreading bullshit.
JD Vance and Republicans are significantly more upset about their lies being called out than they are about people making bomb threats at schools and government buildings in JD Vance’s own state.
Is that even a fact check?
“We were told our lies would go out unchallenged.”
How dare CBS not allow Vance to lie with impunity!
Wallowing in lies is easier than to recognize how crazy racist you are, I guess.
JD Vance is eating the pets….
Doubt we’ll ever see a republican participate in a presidential or vice presidential debate again. They can’t risk the MAGA cult having their collective cognitive dissonance compromised by basic fact checks.
The funny thing about facts is that they are ideologically neutral. Any political party is capable of telling lies. So if the facts are not on your side, that is not a signal of “political bias”, its a sign that you are wrong