If he had said Trump lost, he would be thrown off the ticket this morning.
account_for_yaoi on
I know that “yes or no” questions can often be loaded and that it’s understandable to initially avoid a direct answer in those cases.
Walz’s question, however, ought to have elicited the easiest “yes, he lost” ever.
2HDFloppyDisk on
Oh he answered it clearly by attempting to not answer. His message was loud and clear.
ElPlywood on
Journalists need to ask him this question every time they see him.
Unfortunately, they will fail to do this, because they’re clueless.
Hopefully, at some dipshit country fair or coffee shop, a voter will.
And he will squirm and dodge again.
Illuminated12 on
I can’t understand how a guy that has watched Biden stand in front of the Seal of the United States for the last 4 years can’t figure out who won in 2020. The guy is dumb as a rock apparently.
Delicious_Cats on
It’s a damning non-answer because if Trump wins in 2024, Vance will be the one to certify the next election. We all know the one reason Pence wasn’t on that stage tonight is because that was one step too far for him.
Delicious_Cats on
Vance refuses to answer if trump lost the election, and refuses to answer if he’ll certify the election. That’s ALL you need to know. He will not support the peaceful transition of power, he will not support the rule of Democracy that our nation is founded on. Vance is just trump jr
LouisFarmstrong on
Must be so hard to be living in denial for over 4.5 years lmao
udar55 on
It is insane that an entire party shows fealty to a failed buisnessman/reality show host.
I_like_baseball90 on
You cannot declare someone the winner of a debate who claims Trump’s stupid lies about the ’20 election are true no matter how civil he was.
The guy lied throughout the whole thing but because he was nice, somehow he won. Makes zero sense.
Luckily this neitehr gained nor lost any votes for anyone.
Necessary_Chip9934 on
We noticed.
ry1701 on
Just the fact he kept saying Harris Administration shows he has no idea what the VP role is.
His entire point was to blast Harris and blame her for the current state of affairs, which Republicans are responsible for.
CrotasScrota84 on
Nothing else he said matters that one question if you can’t answer it you should immediately be taken off stage and disqualified from running the country with Trump the head of the snake.
How is this so hard to grasp.
MeetingKey4598 on
It was a bit rough for Walz early but he picked it up and this was really a great way to cap the night. I’m glad he snuck this in there and Vance was caught for all to see. Especially the line about how this is why Pence isn’t on the stage.
Ignoring everything else, in a few moments Vance outted himself as someone who is willing to suspend reality if it helps him politically. It is not a debate — Trump lost. But Vance is not allowed to say it because he’d be politically ruined. Huge disqualifier.
OpenImagination9 on
Because the truth makes the GOP angry.
81305 on
Should we really have a VP who is too afraid to admit the truth? He knows that trump lost. He is just too afraid to say it.
No wonder that party answers to Russia. They’re a bunch of cowards.
-Fahrenheit- on
Vance, for just a split second, looked physically ill there. Like he wanted to say, “yeah, no shit he lost.” But he couldn’t, he knew he had to debase himself at the alter of Trump loyalty in front of everyone watching.
Furthermore, Vance’s equivocating between Clinton’s hemming and hawing about Russian interference in 2016 with Trump’s claims of 2020 being stolen was laughable as well. Clinton called Trump the morning after the election, conceded, and gave a concession speech that day urging her voters to wish Trump the best of luck in helming our nation, then attended Trump’s inauguration. Trump did no such thing, then lied about it for two months after the election to such a degree that some of his most ardent supporter attempted some sloppy grab for power on January 6th. Ultimately, people ended up dead because of those lies.
moutonbleu on
Vance sold his soul to the devil, it’s sad and pathetic
PunfullyObvious on
They just need to win this one and there will never need to be another election.
*that is one of MANY reasons they MUST .. NOT .. WIN*
rounder55 on
This should really be a disqualifier but our country is in the upsidedown
mjzim9022 on
“Tim I’m focusing on the future, did Kamala censor facebook posts 4 years ago?”
Embarrassed_Pipe_109 on
Vance never seems like he’s receiving anything anyone is saying.
Like he’s that person that’s already focused on what they wanna say the moment you open your mouth.
justnigel on
He also says that the American public gave Harris her job, so he knows she won, just wants to lie about it for political gain.
JWTS6 on
This should be the only headline regarding Vance in these post debate articles. Everything else is just journalistic malpractice, but we all know that most mainstream media couldn’t give less fucks about silly stuff like defending democracy.
Bohottie on
Between this and the “I thought you guys weren’t fact checking” gem, how can any rational person think that Vance should be allowed to be on the ticket?
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If he had said Trump lost, he would be thrown off the ticket this morning.
I know that “yes or no” questions can often be loaded and that it’s understandable to initially avoid a direct answer in those cases.
Walz’s question, however, ought to have elicited the easiest “yes, he lost” ever.
Oh he answered it clearly by attempting to not answer. His message was loud and clear.
Journalists need to ask him this question every time they see him.
Unfortunately, they will fail to do this, because they’re clueless.
Hopefully, at some dipshit country fair or coffee shop, a voter will.
And he will squirm and dodge again.
I can’t understand how a guy that has watched Biden stand in front of the Seal of the United States for the last 4 years can’t figure out who won in 2020. The guy is dumb as a rock apparently.
It’s a damning non-answer because if Trump wins in 2024, Vance will be the one to certify the next election. We all know the one reason Pence wasn’t on that stage tonight is because that was one step too far for him.
Vance refuses to answer if trump lost the election, and refuses to answer if he’ll certify the election. That’s ALL you need to know. He will not support the peaceful transition of power, he will not support the rule of Democracy that our nation is founded on. Vance is just trump jr
Must be so hard to be living in denial for over 4.5 years lmao
It is insane that an entire party shows fealty to a failed buisnessman/reality show host.
You cannot declare someone the winner of a debate who claims Trump’s stupid lies about the ’20 election are true no matter how civil he was.
The guy lied throughout the whole thing but because he was nice, somehow he won. Makes zero sense.
Luckily this neitehr gained nor lost any votes for anyone.
We noticed.
Just the fact he kept saying Harris Administration shows he has no idea what the VP role is.
His entire point was to blast Harris and blame her for the current state of affairs, which Republicans are responsible for.
Nothing else he said matters that one question if you can’t answer it you should immediately be taken off stage and disqualified from running the country with Trump the head of the snake.
How is this so hard to grasp.
It was a bit rough for Walz early but he picked it up and this was really a great way to cap the night. I’m glad he snuck this in there and Vance was caught for all to see. Especially the line about how this is why Pence isn’t on the stage.
Ignoring everything else, in a few moments Vance outted himself as someone who is willing to suspend reality if it helps him politically. It is not a debate — Trump lost. But Vance is not allowed to say it because he’d be politically ruined. Huge disqualifier.
Because the truth makes the GOP angry.
Should we really have a VP who is too afraid to admit the truth? He knows that trump lost. He is just too afraid to say it.
No wonder that party answers to Russia. They’re a bunch of cowards.
Vance, for just a split second, looked physically ill there. Like he wanted to say, “yeah, no shit he lost.” But he couldn’t, he knew he had to debase himself at the alter of Trump loyalty in front of everyone watching.
Furthermore, Vance’s equivocating between Clinton’s hemming and hawing about Russian interference in 2016 with Trump’s claims of 2020 being stolen was laughable as well. Clinton called Trump the morning after the election, conceded, and gave a concession speech that day urging her voters to wish Trump the best of luck in helming our nation, then attended Trump’s inauguration. Trump did no such thing, then lied about it for two months after the election to such a degree that some of his most ardent supporter attempted some sloppy grab for power on January 6th. Ultimately, people ended up dead because of those lies.
Vance sold his soul to the devil, it’s sad and pathetic
They just need to win this one and there will never need to be another election.
*that is one of MANY reasons they MUST .. NOT .. WIN*
This should really be a disqualifier but our country is in the upsidedown
“Tim I’m focusing on the future, did Kamala censor facebook posts 4 years ago?”
Vance never seems like he’s receiving anything anyone is saying.
Like he’s that person that’s already focused on what they wanna say the moment you open your mouth.
He also says that the American public gave Harris her job, so he knows she won, just wants to lie about it for political gain.
This should be the only headline regarding Vance in these post debate articles. Everything else is just journalistic malpractice, but we all know that most mainstream media couldn’t give less fucks about silly stuff like defending democracy.
Between this and the “I thought you guys weren’t fact checking” gem, how can any rational person think that Vance should be allowed to be on the ticket?