Vance claims Trump ‘salvaged’ Obamacare. Trump tried, and failed, to kill it.

Source: nbcnews

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  1. Thanks for the late fact check, NBC. That was one of the most blatant lies of the debate.

  2. HellishChildren on

    On that, Vance talked about Trump creating more transparency in drug prices… 

    Trump signed an executive order after his deal with the pharmaceutical companies fell through  When they were about to sign, he abruptly announced that senior citizens would $100 drug discount cards from the companies as part of that deal. The pharmaceutical companies said “we can’t do that, no deal.”

    Trump then promised $200 senior drug discount cards. That never happened.

  3. ResidentKelpien on

    Vance blatantly lied. He repeatedly and blatantly lied.

    Edit: Also, he seems to be blatantly ignorant of the actual authority and duties of the VP role that he is vying for.

  4. I really wish Walz had pushed back harder here. He led with it when he talked about the role McCain played in keeping the ACA alive, but he should have just gone back again and again to what Trump ACTUALLY did. Instead, Vance got away with pitching Trump as some sort of healthcare savior.

  5. ugh_this_sucks__ on

    It’s going to make a *great* attack ad when spliced with Trump bragging about killing it.

  6. I think walz did a good job at dispelling the gaslighting. What Walz said is easily rememberable and easy to look up.

    Hopefully people will think twice.

    It’s not true that Vance and Trump will make ACA better. I hope they realize that.

    They took away RvW they will certainly gut the ACA. It’s what they tried to do last time on day 1. Would have worked if not for McCain. A hero Republican if there ever was one.

    I think McCain voted his conscience because he was dying. He had nothing to lose.

  7. royhenderson771 on

    Vance was asked policy questions and folded like cheap paper. In fact he didn’t answer a single question 

  8. Yeah, beneath the more composed veneer that he was able to put on, there were still enormous lies like this. I don’t know if normies will realize that though. I also think the whole “why doesn’t Harris implement all of her policy now?” line is dumb as hell and I have no idea why anyone finds it compelling. By that logic, no president could ever run for a second term because he should’ve done everything in his first term. Just completely stupid to frame things that way. 

  9. Monkey-bone-zone on

    That was guffaw-inducing horseshit. Trump the Ocare savior? Fuck you, JD. Revolting.

  10. Notice the confession here —

    Trump “salvaged” Obamacare….He’s not owning they tried to kill it. He’s trying to say they saved it and that’s a good thing.

    Notice the pivot. Republicans know healthcare is a their cyanide pill the way the border is for Dems.

    Like that scene in the Sorcerer’s Stone where Voldemort can’t touch Harry without burning. They can’t kill it, or they’d never get elected again.

    So NOW the pivot is “We’re improving it”

  11. The audacity of this prick to try to gaslight people into thinking Trump implemented/expanded Obamacare

  12. Such a simple fact check as a roaring flaming lie, but our media is afraid to print “VANCE LIES ABOUT TRUMP’S HEALTH CARE PLAN” 

  13. I was screaming for Walz to call out that lie that “Trump worked with Obamacare and made it better” – but damnit he didn’t. >_<

  14. This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/jd-vance/vance-falsely-says-trump-salvaged-obamacare-program-tried-repeal-rcna173568) reduced by 70%. (I’m a bot)
    *****
    > Republican vice presidential candidate JD Vance claimed Tuesday night – in contradiction of history – that his running mate, former President Donald Trump, &quot;Salvaged Obamacare,&quot; the health insurance program that Trump tried to kill.

    > &quot;And I think you can make a really good argument that it salvaged Obamacare, which was doing disastrously until Donald Trump came along. I think this is an important point about President Trump.&quot;When Obamacare was crushing under the weight of its own regulatory burden and health care costs, Donald Trump could have destroyed the program,&quot; Vance added.

    > After six years of GOP calls to repeal the law, Trump promised during his 2016 campaign that he would kill the law &quot;very, very quickly.

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