This is the second thread for tonight’s VP debate. The [first thread can be found here](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1fu1ndk/discussion_thread_2024_vice_presidential_debate/).
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**Fact Checking**
Live fact checking will be provided by CBS [at this link](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fact-check-vp-debate-2024/) and will also be provided by Politifact (which can be viewed [here on PBS’ website](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/live-fact-check-vance-and-walz-meet-for-presidential-debate), as well as [a roundup of Politifact’s pre-debate fact-checking that can also be viewed on this PBS page](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/prep-for-the-vice-presidential-debate-with-fact-checks-on-vance-and-walz)).
**Live Pages**
For those wishing to follow along with the debate via text-based updates, check out any of the following pages from: [CBS](http://cbsnews.com/live-updates/vp-debate-vance-walz-2024), [AP](https://apnews.com/live/vp-debate-walz-vance-election-2024-updates), [NPR](https://www.npr.org/live-updates/jd-vance-tim-walz-debate-2024), [NBC](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/live-blog/vice-presidential-debate-vance-walz-live-updates-rcna172846), [ABC](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/live-updates/walz-vance-debate-updates-vp-candidates-set-showdown/?id=114380625), [Bloomberg](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/live-blog/2024-10-01/us-vice-presidential-debate), [The New York Times](https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/10/01/us/walz-vance-vp-debate) (soft paywall), [The Washington Post](https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2024/10/01/vice-presidential-debate-live-updates/) (soft paywall), [CNN](https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/vance-walz-debate-cbs-10-01-24/index.html) (soft paywall), [The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2024/oct/01/election-harris-trump-politics-updates), [USA Today](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/10/01/walz-vance-vp-debate-live-updates/75449829007/), [MSNBC](https://www.msnbc.com/politics/2024-election/live-blog/walz-vance-vice-presidential-debate-live-updates-rcna171510), [CNBC](https://www.cnbc.com/2024/10/01/vice-presidential-debate-jd-vance-tim-walz.html), [The Independent](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-harris-vance-walz-vp-debate-time-latest-news-b2621952.html), [Vanity Fair](https://www.vanityfair.com/live/2024-vp-debate-live-updates), or [Yahoo](https://www.yahoo.com/news/live/live-updates-walz-vance-face-off-in-2024-vice-presidential-debate-123441406.html).
**Where to Watch**
The debate will be broadcast on CBS, and can also be viewed live (or later) at any of the following pages. All times in this section are US Eastern.
– CBS via YouTube: [Watch Live: JD Vance and Tim Walz vice presidential debate, hosted by CBS News](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAGZGQg31hs) (Stream goes live at 4 p.m.)
– CBS via YouTube: [Watch Live: Vance-Walz VP debate highlights and analysis](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOTCm8GGUu0) (Goes live at 10:30 p.m.)
– PBS NewsHour via YouTube: [Vance and Walz debate — PBS News simulcast of CBS’s 2024 Vice Presidential Debate](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5g_ObRA4Y4)
– C-SPAN: [Simulcast – CBS News Vice Presidential Debate](https://www.c-span.org/video/?538521-1/simulcast-cbs-news-vice-presidential-debate)
– C-SPAN: [Reaction To CBS News Vice Presidential Debate](https://www.c-span.org/video/?538520-1/reaction-cbs-news-vice-presidential-debate)
Source: PoliticsModeratorBot
48 Comments
You have more time…”shit”
lol immigrants stealing homes, no mention of corporations buying them all and shit like airbnb
Immigrants are building our housing.
JD: the VP does everything cause Donald said so. The President only needs to golf and read letters from dictators.
Dey took our homes!
“Where are you gonna seize the federal lands?”
“We have a lot of federal lands. Immigants!”
Blame the Mexicans. Blame the Mexicans. Blame the Mental Health Issues. Blame the Big Cities for Violence. Blame the Mexicans. Blame the Mexicans. Also. Blame the Mexicans -JD Vance.
Vance says a lot of words and makes few points (other than immigrants *BAD*).
He was real proud of himself for that one. Yeesh
It’s weird how oration/debate tactics/charisma works. If you read a transcript JD Vance is complete fucking insane talking about mass deportation but he comes off as a generic politician holding his own
Yes the illegal immigrants who totally are working on a wage that could support a $250,000 down payment on a starter home.
Its not illegal for non-citizens to own a home
Illegal immigrants aren’t causing the housing crisis holy shit
Damn, Walz calling them out for not fact-checking was needed.
You fact check Walz! Spicy! Keep it up!
I have a hard time believing Illegal immigrants can afford a fucking house, come on
It’s annoying the moderators keep saying “your time is up” AFTER they’ve finished talking and clearly aren’t going to say more. Fair enough if they’re going over the time, but it’s grating saying it every single time they finish their answer (on time).
the way vance keeps going out of his way to blame kamala harris for EVERYTHING is getting comical
As if immigrants could afford the homes they’re supposedly taking from Americans -_-
Bruh.
Even though they might be opposites they go about it pretty respectfully. This is a breath of fresh air
Omg no illegal immigrants are competing for fucking houses
So are the illegal immigrants living on the federal land were not using? Is that what he implied?
Federal lands are absolutely being used for something
Fuck off
“Can I have it” 🥹
Imagine getting outbid by an illegal immigrant
Guess I’ll just move to federal land?
> I guess we agreed not to fact check; I’ll check it
Is it me or is Vance blaming everything on immigrants?
I would like to seed my time to Senator Vance. Where exactly where are we going to build Senator?
How many illegal immigrants are coming in loaded with cash to buy homes?
What? Federal land where?
“Yes I’m happy to monologue for another 30 seconds but no I won’t answer the question”
No one wants to fucking live on BLM land.
“Where are you going to build?”
“Well we have land.”
“Okay but where though?”
“So we have a lot of land.”
“You have 23 seconds left” “can i have it” 💀
He wants us to believe illegal immigrants are coming in and able to buy homes with what, $600,000 cash? Who the hell believes that at all?
Illegal immigrants cannot afford to buy a house. They’re not the reason houses cost so much.
He seems to not be fond of Arlington, maybe houses there…
Immigrants aren’t the cause of the housing shortage. Corporations buying homes, Short Term Rentals, etc. are a lot more impactful on that issue.
the shitty thing about the ‘friends with school shooters line’ is everyone understands he was trying to say “friends with victims of school shooters” but because we now live in clickbait hellscape, everyone’s going to be reposting it just for engagement even if they know it was a gaffe and it’s just gonna circulate and circulate
“I’m not saying it’s illegal immigrants. But, it’s illegal immigrants.”
The housing issue isn’t easy in every state though. Like I live in Arizona and water availability is a huge issue when it comes to building new homes
“I don’t want to blame immigrants, but I do want to blame Harris. And I also want to blame immigrants.” – Vance
lol
Vance: “We don’t want to blame immigrants. We want to blame Kamala Harris ….for letting in immigrants who deserve blame for houses being expensive”
Those federal lands are protected for a reason you dunce
The biggest thing that causes centrists to grow weary with Trump is how radical and unhinged he seems. I definitely see why he’s pulled out of all the remaining debates… Vance is great at whitewashing these far right policies and that being the last memory for centrist voters of the Trump-Vance tickets (you know they don’t watch rallies) is going to be very beneficial for them. I hate that Trump chickened out and is going to benefit from it massively.
what an absolutely dumb fucking take. illegal immigrants are not the reason I can’t afford a house. I can’t even afford a house on a substitute teacher’s salary, what makes you think they can?