Italy revives policy of failing badly behaved pupils to ‘bring back respect’ | The “grades for conduct” policy, similar to a measure first introduced by Benito Mussolini, gives schools the power to fail students based purely on their behaviour.
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Then big mean kids will be with smaller kids… sounds like a recipe for disaster
I support this to an extent
Consequences – the term you’re looking for is consequences
Behavior is a very subjective measure, even when we think we’re measuring it objectively.
Will they also provide extensive counseling and other mental health support? I like the idea of children, and grown ups for that matter, being held responsible for thier actions. But unless you also provide some kind of mental health care it’s not going to help just to flunk them.
>Middle school and high school pupils who score five or less out of 10 on conduct will fail the year and face having to repeat it even if their academic standard is up to par.
so no discussion or mention of the data on how that works out? effectiveness of having students repeat a year for a) academic reasons b) any given reasons? surely you’d want to know that to be able to even vaguely guess at whether repeating students for behaviour reasons is going to improve something/anything/what exactly?
I can see this becoming a tool for teachers to punish the kids they don’t like for any reason
The only D I ever got in high school was from a civics teacher that I would debate creationism with after class and who gave me pro creationism pamphlets to prove her case. They were laughable bad in a scientific sense which even a 14 year old me could tell were illogical nonsense.
This was in the early 70s and in hindsight I should have made a huge stink about it. Perhaps if I’d been a straight A student I would have. Then again they probably wouldn’t have given such an uncharacteristic grade if I were.
Point is, this kind of latitude will enable teachers the levers to enforce their world view on others, or at least drag down those that don’t.
This has proven gen to be very effective in the past. It’s a primary reason Italy has long been known for never producing any criminals.
You’re smart enough to get good grades but you’re an a-hole? Force them to take the GED until they pass it. I don’t care if there 12.
Hopefully with advances in AI and robotics, the really bad kids can be put in special schools where they can’t hurt anyone. The teachers will be robots that can restrain them or break up fights.
Hard disagree. If someone gets into fights repeatedly or brings a knife to school and threatens kids, you can’t fail students? He can just switch schools and go unpunished? Cause the police in Italy sure ain’t gonna do shit.
There’s also no such thing as too old for school. 50 year old people attend school at nighttime after work to this day.
Also imagine hiring kids that aren’t straight A behaviour in law enforcement. Less than A? Go to military, kid, and get straightened out. Back in my day the only way to lose behaviour points is to be insolent and violent. Even skipping a lot of grades could be worked out with school donations and diplomacy, only repeated violence or violence with a weapon wouldn’t,
God this headline is bad. “Grades for conduct” are a thing that already existed, the new policy is just stating that if a student gets a 5/10 or less (which is considered a failing grade in any subject) then they have to hold them back.
Which is worthless anyway because if the school decides they don’t want to hold someone back they can just give them a 6 anyway, which they already do with all other subjects if they feel like.
And getting a failing grade in conduct is stupidly hard anyway, in most schools you basically need to be doing something outright criminal for that to happen.
Can we start failing companies for the conduct of their C-Suite and sell it to whoever we want?
Have you met some of these “ prize “ pupils ?