“I did say those critical things and I regret them, and I regret being wrong about the guy,” Vance said at the time, adding that he in fact voted for Trump in 2020. “I think he was a good president, I think he made a lot of good decisions for people, and I think he took a lot of flak.”
That must have been from before he was allergic to telling the truth.
Dianneis on
So to sum up, this is Trump’s running mate:
>“I know I could never support Trump if it really mattered. […] He’s just a bad man. A morally reprehensible human being.”
>“Definitely some people who voted for Trump were racist and they voted for him for racist reasons.”
>”I think that I’m going to vote third party because I can’t stomach Trump. I think that he’s noxious and is leading the white working class to a very dark place.”
>“I think there’s a chance, if I feel like Trump has a really good chance of winning, that I might have to hold my nose and vote for Hillary Clinton.”
>“Trump makes people I care about afraid. Immigrants, Muslims, etc. Because of this I find him reprehensible. God wants better of us.”
>“I do [think he’s a total fraud that is exploiting these people] too. […] I don’t think he actually cares about folks. I think he just recognizes that there was a hole in the conversation and that hole is that people from these regions of the country, they feel ignored.”
>“I’m definitely not gonna vote for Trump because I think that he’s projecting very complex problems onto simple villains.”
>“I go back and forth between thinking Trump is a cynical asshole like Nixon who wouldn’t be that bad (and might even prove useful) or that he’s America’s Hitler. How’s that for discouraging?”
>“At the heart of Trump’s immigration message is that if we had less immigration, we would have much better jobs. I think it’s a lot more complicated than that. My own sense is that Trump definitely simplifies these problems. I don’t think if you build a great Mexican wall, all of a sudden, all of these steel mill jobs are going to come back to southern Ohio, but it at least gives people something to latch onto.”
>“Can you imagine running as an anti-AHCA populist who thinks Trump is a moral disaster? Where’s my constituency?”
>”Trump is cultural heroin. He makes some feel better for a bit. But he cannot fix what ails them, and one day they’ll realize it.”
>“There is definitely an element of Donald Trump’s support that has its basis in racism, xenophobia…”
>“It’s not just that Donald Trump doesn’t speak to issues of special concern of minority voters or Black voters, it’s that he seems to like actively antagonizing a lot of the Black voters.”
>”Trump has just so thoroughly failed to deliver on his economic populism (excepting a disjointed China policy).”
>“I think Trump will probably lose.”
– JD Vance on Trump, 2016-2020
AlDHydeAndTheKetones on
Vance hates Trump more than I hate Trump
Halefire on
Did they vet this guy in the slightest???
User4C4C4C on
If he thought it was bad last time, if Trump gets elected again, this time he will only appoint people who are loyal before skilled.
icemarie on
Did anyone believe him before these messages? This is the same guy that has doubled down on immigrants eating cats and dogs.
It’s pretty clear in my opinion that he’s doing it for the power.
FF36 on
“But what I meant was…..” “….also they’re eating your pets”
rosy_chloe on
Previously I was rolling my eyes at the idea that Trump was manipulated into selecting advance when people had plans for advance to get him booted and take over. But with more stuff like Thai coming out, it makes sense.
My tinfoil hat isn’t tight enough for me to claim that certainly what happened to them most likely reasons. But it does make sense.
YetiSquish on
Ok now put that in a pro-Harris ad.
vmqbnmgjha on
“Trump thoroughly failed to deliver”
That’s what she said 🙂
CaffineBasedFemdom on
this is news? lmao obviously he’s an ambitious idiot
cegr76 on
I clearly remember poor people being royally fucked in 2020. Not fucked enough for Fancy Vancy?
TooAfraidToAsk814 on
Vance isn’t wrong on that. trump promised yearly 4-6% GDP growth and it never got above 2.9%. The economy was slowing before Covid as GDP growth was only 2.3% in 2019
He is wrong again. Trump has no “ economic agenda”. He is running solely to stop his federal cases and line his pockets. That is his agenda. He doesn’t even want to run.
empstat on
Tim Walz should just abruptly read JD Vance comments on Trump and say ” JD, I completely agree with your statement. “
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onceinawhile222 on
Of course JD was just lying to advance a story line. Now this time he is telling the truth.
robot_jeans on
Silly Vance, Trump has no economic agenda except to make Trump wealthier. He succeeded Bigly.
ScubaSteveEL on
“I’m Kamala Harris and I approve this message”
Individual_Respect90 on
I think JD Vance is a double agent. He is going to throw this debate in the worst way possible.
adgway on
Walz needs to pepper his debate performance w JDV quotes lol.
Lanolin_The_Sheep on
A democratic scandal is when they lie, a republican scandal is when they tell the truth.
Javasndphotoclicks on
Funny thing is that his supporters slept right through that part. He doesn’t have a plan and everyone with a working brain knows that.
OldManPip5 on
Trumps only economic agenda was to use the office of the president to enrich himself. That’s it.
Kind-City-2173 on
Keep bringing out all the receipts. It is so funny how misremembered trump’s economy was. People are saying it was red hot and the best ever. We hit a technical recession in the fall of 2019, well before Covid was known and factored in. We were in low growth mode. His lower corporate taxes just led to more stock buybacks and dividends
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Newly released messages appear to undercut vice-presidential nominee [JD Vance](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/jd-vance-mom-donald-trump-b2619677.html)’s claims that he had a change of heart about former President Donald Trump once he witnessed his achievements in office.
In 2021, while campaigning for the [US Senate](https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/us-senate) seat he now holds, Vance asked people “not to judge me based on what I said” previously about [the man he called](https://www.politico.com/news/2021/10/23/jd-vance-ohio-senate-trump-comments-516865), variously, a “cynical a**hole,” a “moral disaster,” a “total fraud,” an “idiot,” and “America’s Hitler.”
“I did say those critical things and I regret them, and I regret being wrong about the guy,” Vance said at the time, adding that he in fact voted for Trump in 2020. “I think he was a good president, I think he made a lot of good decisions for people, and I think he took a lot of flak.”
However, [*The Washington Post* obtained direct messages](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/09/27/jd-vance-messages-trump-criticism-2020/) Vance reportedly exchanged privately on Twitter, in which he slammed Trump — a man he later deemed “the best president of my lifetime,” for his myriad shortfalls as commander-in-chief.
READ MORE HERE: [https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/jd-vance-trump-economy-election-b2620029.html](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/jd-vance-trump-economy-election-b2620029.html)
Good. I hope they eat each other alive.
Trump is a thorough failure.
Lol. Duh…..
That must have been from before he was allergic to telling the truth.
So to sum up, this is Trump’s running mate:
>“I know I could never support Trump if it really mattered. […] He’s just a bad man. A morally reprehensible human being.”
>“Definitely some people who voted for Trump were racist and they voted for him for racist reasons.”
>”I think that I’m going to vote third party because I can’t stomach Trump. I think that he’s noxious and is leading the white working class to a very dark place.”
>“I think there’s a chance, if I feel like Trump has a really good chance of winning, that I might have to hold my nose and vote for Hillary Clinton.”
>“Trump makes people I care about afraid. Immigrants, Muslims, etc. Because of this I find him reprehensible. God wants better of us.”
>“I do [think he’s a total fraud that is exploiting these people] too. […] I don’t think he actually cares about folks. I think he just recognizes that there was a hole in the conversation and that hole is that people from these regions of the country, they feel ignored.”
>“I’m definitely not gonna vote for Trump because I think that he’s projecting very complex problems onto simple villains.”
>“I go back and forth between thinking Trump is a cynical asshole like Nixon who wouldn’t be that bad (and might even prove useful) or that he’s America’s Hitler. How’s that for discouraging?”
>“At the heart of Trump’s immigration message is that if we had less immigration, we would have much better jobs. I think it’s a lot more complicated than that. My own sense is that Trump definitely simplifies these problems. I don’t think if you build a great Mexican wall, all of a sudden, all of these steel mill jobs are going to come back to southern Ohio, but it at least gives people something to latch onto.”
>“Can you imagine running as an anti-AHCA populist who thinks Trump is a moral disaster? Where’s my constituency?”
>”Trump is cultural heroin. He makes some feel better for a bit. But he cannot fix what ails them, and one day they’ll realize it.”
>“There is definitely an element of Donald Trump’s support that has its basis in racism, xenophobia…”
>“It’s not just that Donald Trump doesn’t speak to issues of special concern of minority voters or Black voters, it’s that he seems to like actively antagonizing a lot of the Black voters.”
>”Trump has just so thoroughly failed to deliver on his economic populism (excepting a disjointed China policy).”
>“I think Trump will probably lose.”
– JD Vance on Trump, 2016-2020
Vance hates Trump more than I hate Trump
Did they vet this guy in the slightest???
If he thought it was bad last time, if Trump gets elected again, this time he will only appoint people who are loyal before skilled.
Did anyone believe him before these messages? This is the same guy that has doubled down on immigrants eating cats and dogs.
It’s pretty clear in my opinion that he’s doing it for the power.
“But what I meant was…..” “….also they’re eating your pets”
Previously I was rolling my eyes at the idea that Trump was manipulated into selecting advance when people had plans for advance to get him booted and take over. But with more stuff like Thai coming out, it makes sense.
My tinfoil hat isn’t tight enough for me to claim that certainly what happened to them most likely reasons. But it does make sense.
Ok now put that in a pro-Harris ad.
“Trump thoroughly failed to deliver”
That’s what she said 🙂
this is news? lmao obviously he’s an ambitious idiot
I clearly remember poor people being royally fucked in 2020. Not fucked enough for Fancy Vancy?
Vance isn’t wrong on that. trump promised yearly 4-6% GDP growth and it never got above 2.9%. The economy was slowing before Covid as GDP growth was only 2.3% in 2019
https://www.npr.org/2020/01/30/800985774/u-s-economy-slowed-in-2019-to-2-3
He is wrong again. Trump has no “ economic agenda”. He is running solely to stop his federal cases and line his pockets. That is his agenda. He doesn’t even want to run.
Tim Walz should just abruptly read JD Vance comments on Trump and say ” JD, I completely agree with your statement. “
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Of course JD was just lying to advance a story line. Now this time he is telling the truth.
Silly Vance, Trump has no economic agenda except to make Trump wealthier. He succeeded Bigly.
“I’m Kamala Harris and I approve this message”
I think JD Vance is a double agent. He is going to throw this debate in the worst way possible.
Walz needs to pepper his debate performance w JDV quotes lol.
A democratic scandal is when they lie, a republican scandal is when they tell the truth.
Funny thing is that his supporters slept right through that part. He doesn’t have a plan and everyone with a working brain knows that.
Trumps only economic agenda was to use the office of the president to enrich himself. That’s it.
Keep bringing out all the receipts. It is so funny how misremembered trump’s economy was. People are saying it was red hot and the best ever. We hit a technical recession in the fall of 2019, well before Covid was known and factored in. We were in low growth mode. His lower corporate taxes just led to more stock buybacks and dividends