Are they as concerned about that as they are foreign interference?
Mundane-Club-107 on
It should be blatantly obvious to anyone who’s been following this RTO mandate that it wasn’t done to benefit Canadians or Federal Public Servants. It was done to enrich private interests. At the detriment of Canadians and Federal Public Servants.
Street-Corner7801 on
I’m not sure why the government is concerned, as the majority of the general public is not sympathetic to the tantrums the public service workers are throwing over having to go back to the office a few days a week lol.
500mLwater on
“The documents show how TBS looked at global trends, raised concerns about public trust and *had very little internal information on productivity when deciding to mandate workers back to the office*.
…
Almost a full year before the three-day-a-week mandate was announced, a slide deck recommended a “flexible first” option “without prescribed office parameters” for those who can do their work remotely.
That option is touted for potential gains in productivity, the diversity and geographic distribution of talent in the public service, and reducing the government’s office and environmental footprint.
…
“To me, it seems like politics got in the way. It seems like another agenda got put on the table and the government chose to go that route because the *evidence isn’t there* to support this mandate,” DeSousa said.
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The research suggests no loss in productivity in hybrid work environments, but is not definitive about any significant gains for the employer.
A 2023 survey of 1,320 federal employees included in the document showed overwhelming support for remote work.
The top benefit employees cited was better productivity, and 28 per cent said they saw no downside to remote work for themselves, their team or organization.
Without explicitly mentioning productivity, an October 2023 update on the first phase of the return to the office noted that “adoption of hybrid work models happened slowly at the same time Canadians experienced delays in service delivery.”
Curious-Ad-8367 on
Wsib workers should be back in the office with all the mistakes they make .
Last stat I read was 39% of all decisions are overturned at the tribunal.
Seems like coffee and whiskey at home leads to bad decision making
JustDoAGoodJob on
I quit the Feds over RTO. I was hired into a fully remote tech role, far away from Ottawa, and was the only person from my team in my region. For RTO, they required me to commute to an office 100km away, that did not have space for me to work, where I knew nobody, so that I could continue to work remotely from there instead in a distracting environment with poor quality internet.
That’s how well this RTO plan was thought out.
udownwithopc on
I would assume it depends on which government agencies are being asked to return to the office. Has CRA’s level of service been reduced since they started working from home? Most definitely, as they now work off of unsecured cellphones that have a much higher tendency to drop calls. They are also demanding that Canadians ship, electronically submit, or fax (yes, fax!) hundreds of documents for simple audits because they don’t appear to do in person audits anymore.
Entirely different from someone who has a non-client facing job. Ideally this is handled on a case by case basis (if you can effectively work from home, more power to you), but I would imagine that in some cases working in a union environment means you need to have a blanket policy for everyone. And this may be a case where a one size fits all policy is not effective.
sleipnir45 on
More policy-based evidence making?
AustralisBorealis64 on
When did this government ever care about “public scrutiny?”
littlebaldboi on
Translation: we can’t afford to lose these votes
DaffodillyDarling on
I look at is as something done for the greater good. Wouldn’t it be better to have a thriving economy that supports local businesses than everyone working from their home? Personal interests versus collective interests. Makes sense from a broader economic perspective, if not a personal one.
KirkJimmy on
Coffee breaks, people bugging you at your desk, commute times. Cost of having people in the office. There’s no fucking way this is better for Canadians
IIlIlIlIIIll on
Is anyone going to scrutinize the high costs of buildings? We are intentionally bloating the government at this point.
Business_Influence89 on
The article raises a good point; is there an accurate measure of government productivity both with WFH and in office. It would be easier for the public to support a side if we had real, accurate and non-biased analysis.
publicworker69 on
A reason that’s been tossed around by senior management is public perception. Personally I do not care at all what the public thinks since most of the time, they have no idea what they’re talking about. Why not actually stand up for us when the media claims all sorts of bullshit? Instead they more or less agree with the media which erodes the public perception even further.
weatheredanomaly on
Nothing like forcing us to pay a carbon tax while all your policies lead to increased emissions.
robtaggart77 on
Who cares, they do know that 80% people reading this are sitting at their desk in the office right!
BitingArtist on
The government is using RTO to funnel taxpayer dollars directly into corporate pockets, full stop.
AileStrike on
Why is no one talking about what back to work policies are doing to traffic, congestion and peoples commutes. Are the issues with lost productivity felt by everyone on the road due to traffic offset by having a portion of people in the office?Â
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Are they as concerned about that as they are foreign interference?
It should be blatantly obvious to anyone who’s been following this RTO mandate that it wasn’t done to benefit Canadians or Federal Public Servants. It was done to enrich private interests. At the detriment of Canadians and Federal Public Servants.
I’m not sure why the government is concerned, as the majority of the general public is not sympathetic to the tantrums the public service workers are throwing over having to go back to the office a few days a week lol.
“The documents show how TBS looked at global trends, raised concerns about public trust and *had very little internal information on productivity when deciding to mandate workers back to the office*.
…
Almost a full year before the three-day-a-week mandate was announced, a slide deck recommended a “flexible first” option “without prescribed office parameters” for those who can do their work remotely.
That option is touted for potential gains in productivity, the diversity and geographic distribution of talent in the public service, and reducing the government’s office and environmental footprint.
…
“To me, it seems like politics got in the way. It seems like another agenda got put on the table and the government chose to go that route because the *evidence isn’t there* to support this mandate,” DeSousa said.
…
The research suggests no loss in productivity in hybrid work environments, but is not definitive about any significant gains for the employer.
A 2023 survey of 1,320 federal employees included in the document showed overwhelming support for remote work.
The top benefit employees cited was better productivity, and 28 per cent said they saw no downside to remote work for themselves, their team or organization.
Without explicitly mentioning productivity, an October 2023 update on the first phase of the return to the office noted that “adoption of hybrid work models happened slowly at the same time Canadians experienced delays in service delivery.”
Wsib workers should be back in the office with all the mistakes they make .
Last stat I read was 39% of all decisions are overturned at the tribunal.
Seems like coffee and whiskey at home leads to bad decision making
I quit the Feds over RTO. I was hired into a fully remote tech role, far away from Ottawa, and was the only person from my team in my region. For RTO, they required me to commute to an office 100km away, that did not have space for me to work, where I knew nobody, so that I could continue to work remotely from there instead in a distracting environment with poor quality internet.
That’s how well this RTO plan was thought out.
I would assume it depends on which government agencies are being asked to return to the office. Has CRA’s level of service been reduced since they started working from home? Most definitely, as they now work off of unsecured cellphones that have a much higher tendency to drop calls. They are also demanding that Canadians ship, electronically submit, or fax (yes, fax!) hundreds of documents for simple audits because they don’t appear to do in person audits anymore.
Entirely different from someone who has a non-client facing job. Ideally this is handled on a case by case basis (if you can effectively work from home, more power to you), but I would imagine that in some cases working in a union environment means you need to have a blanket policy for everyone. And this may be a case where a one size fits all policy is not effective.
More policy-based evidence making?
When did this government ever care about “public scrutiny?”
Translation: we can’t afford to lose these votes
I look at is as something done for the greater good. Wouldn’t it be better to have a thriving economy that supports local businesses than everyone working from their home? Personal interests versus collective interests. Makes sense from a broader economic perspective, if not a personal one.
Coffee breaks, people bugging you at your desk, commute times. Cost of having people in the office. There’s no fucking way this is better for Canadians
Is anyone going to scrutinize the high costs of buildings? We are intentionally bloating the government at this point.
The article raises a good point; is there an accurate measure of government productivity both with WFH and in office. It would be easier for the public to support a side if we had real, accurate and non-biased analysis.
A reason that’s been tossed around by senior management is public perception. Personally I do not care at all what the public thinks since most of the time, they have no idea what they’re talking about. Why not actually stand up for us when the media claims all sorts of bullshit? Instead they more or less agree with the media which erodes the public perception even further.
Nothing like forcing us to pay a carbon tax while all your policies lead to increased emissions.
Who cares, they do know that 80% people reading this are sitting at their desk in the office right!
The government is using RTO to funnel taxpayer dollars directly into corporate pockets, full stop.
Why is no one talking about what back to work policies are doing to traffic, congestion and peoples commutes. Are the issues with lost productivity felt by everyone on the road due to traffic offset by having a portion of people in the office?Â