FBI confirms US murders declined in 2023, contrary to Republican claims

Source: TheSoupThief

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  1. harrywrinkleyballs on

    In other news: DJT is down hard. $12.40.

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  2. brain_overclocked on

    >Murder dropped by more than 11% from 2022 to 2023, the largest single-year decline in two decades, according to FBI data released on Monday.

    >Meanwhile, the broader category of violent crime nationwide decreased about 3%, said the data, which is audited and confirms earlier reporting from unaudited statistics.

    In its annual Crime in the Nation summary, the FBI said rape decreased by an estimated 9.4%, property crime dropped 2.4% and burglary fell by an estimated 7.6%.

    >Car theft, however, was up by an estimated 12.6% – and shoplifting had returned to levels seen before the Covid-19 pandemic, from 999,394 reported cases in 2022 to 1.15m in 2023.

    >Monday’s release of audited data contradicts a talking point that Donald Trump has made on the campaign trail as the Republican presidential nominee seeks a return to the White House during the 5 November election: that crime has been rampant and out of control without him in power.

    The crime agency notes that its 2023 estimates include full-year numbers from “every city agency covering a population of 1,000,000 or more inhabitants”, undermining frequent Republican claims that the numbers look better than they are because they exclude statistics from many major cities.

    >Monday’s data collection pulls from the National Incident-Based Reporting System (NIBRS) and covers more than 315 million people – or 94.3% of the US.

    >The latest audited figures broadly correspond to data released in June that showed evidence of a decline in violent crime across the country had carried into 2024. Nonetheless, that data will not be released in its audited form until about this time in 2025.

    The annual summary: [FBI Releases 2023 Crime in the Nation Statistics](https://www.fbi.gov/news/press-releases/fbi-releases-2023-crime-in-the-nation-statistics#:~:text=The%20FBI's%20crime%20statistics%20estimates,compared%20to%20the%20previous%20year.)

    >The FBI released detailed data on over 14 million criminal offenses for 2023 reported to the Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) Program by participating law enforcement agencies. More than 16,000 state, county, city, university and college, and tribal agencies, covering a combined population of 94.3% inhabitants, submitted data to the UCR Program through the National Incident-Based Reporting System (NIBRS) and the Summary Reporting System.

  3. Eatthehamsters69 on

    Didn’t Trump say something like the FBI stats were fake during the debate since “they didn’t count the violent crimes in the big cities” or some fucking nonsense.

    And does reality even matter at all in this trainwreck of an election

  4. Waiting for the posters who insisted to me over the weekend violent crime is up because blue states don’t report crime stats anymore.

    Just….. wow.

  5. This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/sep/23/violent-crime-murder-rate-fbi-2023?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other) reduced by 71%. (I’m a bot)
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    > In its annual Crime in the Nation summary, the FBI said rape decreased by an estimated 9.4%, property crime dropped 2.4% and burglary fell by an estimated 7.6%. Car theft was up by an estimated 12.6% – and shoplifting had returned to levels seen before the Covid-19 pandemic, from 999,394 reported cases in 2022 to 1.15m in 2023.

    > The crime agency notes that its 2023 estimates include full-year numbers from "Every city agency covering a population of 1,000,000 or more inhabitants", undermining frequent Republican claims that the numbers look better than they are because they exclude statistics from many major cities.

    > The White House noted that addressing gun crime was essential to addressing violence in the US because firearms are used in about 80% of the country's murders.

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  6. ImmediatelyOrSooner on

    Republican voters: “But but I saw all the crime on tv!”

    Everyone: “That’s the 37th season of CSI, grandpa”

  7. The COVID disruption clearly caused an unexpected jump in many crime figures, and things are finally returning to normal.

    People will be arguing over exactly why for decades. Was it because so many people lost their jobs during quarantine? Or simply the overall disruption to normal life? Reduced social interaction? Who knows precisely why, but anything that has happened with crime in recent years can’t really be used in the normal political way. The pandemic had more effect than anything any politician did.

  8. now how quickly will ‘we support law enforcement!’ change to ‘law enforcement is a Marxist construct underreporting crime numbers to help Kommiela Harris and Sleepy Joe!’

  9. Independent-Bug-9352 on

    Reminder that **violent crime is at a 50 year low.**

    The only rebuttal Republicans seem to have is basically saying, “Well yeah but what about non-violent crime!?” to which you say, “who cares about jaywalking? We’re talking about burglary, assault and murder.”

  10. Well, I’m sure the FBI and its *checks notes* Republican and Trump appointed Director is just biased in favor of Democrats.

    Fake news!

  11. Massive_General_8629 on

    Eh, violent crime has been steadily declining since the first Bush administration. One theory (though it’s admittedly controversial) is that banning tetraethyl lead (a fuel additive) and lead paint and other sources for lead may have caused the change. Regardless, most of the population really is getting better (morally) in front of our very eyes.

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