Eminently sensible, given the evidence about its limited effectiveness and how it damages attitudes to the police.
JimJonesdrinkkoolaid on
Seems like a bad idea to me.
I know it’s politically a popular move but with the amount of kids and teens in London carrying knives, etc, it seems like it could be a bad idea.
HorseBarrierRoad on
Stop and search works. That’s the fact.
What’s missing is demographic crime statistics for each force area.
If the majority of street crime and knife crime is committed by young white men in a forces area, that is who they need to be targeting.
If it’s young black men then that’s who must be targeted.
It will vary by force.
Publishing those stats will leave nowhere to hide. Either a demographic is targeted because it needs to be or it’s being targeted due to racism. The data will make that clear to all.
To honest seeing how small some police officers are now days probably unsafe for them to do it lol
Neither-Stage-238 on
they have no trust from any community because they dont stop and search.
EliteCakeMan on
Stop and Search everyone, whenever there is a need.
If white people did the most crime I’d say search them more, if black people feel hurt their community commits lots of crime, then they should stop it as a community rather than encourage it.
XenorVernix on
I feel like we’ve been here before. People will be complaining about an increasing rate of knife crime next and demanding the police do more.
Naive-Drawing-5844 on
It’s time to celebrate knife culture Attempts to stop it is racist and it’s about to time stop and search was ended.
PatrickDCally on
Everyone is saying it’s racist to see there could be a connection with that data that shows there is a problem with knife crime in the black community and stop and search is racist.
But knife crime in black communities disproportionately affects the black communities. If someone gets stabbed they are usually black too. So can’t you make the case that ignoring the problem, and letting more young black men get stabbed to death is also racist?
J-Force on
This thread is depressing. You will learn nothing here.
Statistical literacy is dead. Long term thinking is dead. Reading comprehension is dead, especially given most of the commenters have clearly not read a word of the article or the statement it’s based on. Understanding of policing was never there to begin with. If a thread has “black” in the title, it’s not worth your time in the comments if it’s r/unitedkingdom
CandidSalt9547 on
I imagine reform will run with “two-tier policing” after this announcement
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Eminently sensible, given the evidence about its limited effectiveness and how it damages attitudes to the police.
Seems like a bad idea to me.
I know it’s politically a popular move but with the amount of kids and teens in London carrying knives, etc, it seems like it could be a bad idea.
Stop and search works. That’s the fact.
What’s missing is demographic crime statistics for each force area.
If the majority of street crime and knife crime is committed by young white men in a forces area, that is who they need to be targeting.
If it’s young black men then that’s who must be targeted.
It will vary by force.
Publishing those stats will leave nowhere to hide. Either a demographic is targeted because it needs to be or it’s being targeted due to racism. The data will make that clear to all.
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[https://www.met.police.uk/foi-ai/metropolitan-police/disclosure-2023/october-2023/crimes-racial-groups-2022/](https://www.met.police.uk/foi-ai/metropolitan-police/disclosure-2023/october-2023/crimes-racial-groups-2022/)
for all in the crowd
To honest seeing how small some police officers are now days probably unsafe for them to do it lol
they have no trust from any community because they dont stop and search.
Stop and Search everyone, whenever there is a need.
If white people did the most crime I’d say search them more, if black people feel hurt their community commits lots of crime, then they should stop it as a community rather than encourage it.
I feel like we’ve been here before. People will be complaining about an increasing rate of knife crime next and demanding the police do more.
It’s time to celebrate knife culture Attempts to stop it is racist and it’s about to time stop and search was ended.
Everyone is saying it’s racist to see there could be a connection with that data that shows there is a problem with knife crime in the black community and stop and search is racist.
But knife crime in black communities disproportionately affects the black communities. If someone gets stabbed they are usually black too. So can’t you make the case that ignoring the problem, and letting more young black men get stabbed to death is also racist?
This thread is depressing. You will learn nothing here.
Statistical literacy is dead. Long term thinking is dead. Reading comprehension is dead, especially given most of the commenters have clearly not read a word of the article or the statement it’s based on. Understanding of policing was never there to begin with. If a thread has “black” in the title, it’s not worth your time in the comments if it’s r/unitedkingdom
I imagine reform will run with “two-tier policing” after this announcement