Only this Government would think giving a company 2 billion to set up a service that already exists would be a good idea.
Funny enough this money will go to Elon anyways since they’ll probably be the one launching the satalights.
BornAgainCyclist on
>”Less than half that amount,” Musk responded, prompting Barrett to conclude: “That sounds like a common-sense solution for Canada to me.”
Ironic wording considering anyone with common sense would be double and triple checking any claim Musk makes. Also, common sense, based on past history, would say that Musk shouldn’t be involved.
The guy has shown to have the patience, and maturity, or a petulant toddler. I wouldn’t want him anywhere near large scale infrastructure, or anything that can have a large scale impact on Canadians.
We already have companies like this, and Valley Fiber opening up entire regions of Canada, we don’t need Musk involved.
>Deputy Conservative leader Melissa Lantsman said in the House this week that Carney’s “close friend, the CEO of Telesat, got more than two billion of Canadians’ tax dollars to build a broadband network
Once again, people have to misrepresent the truth to make a point. It’s a loan not a grant.
It’s also unfortunate that Lantsman and others in her party think we should send our money to Musk, who demands subsidies not loans and proven himself unreliable, and not a Canadian company that would see the money stay in Canada.
Doesn’t sound very common sense.
LuntiX on
Of course the conservatives want to side with a facist billionaire.
DataDude00 on
It is a loan not a grant, so we will get paid back
We are supporting a Canadian based company instead of a foreign national
We are getting a high interest rate (9-10% quoted)
We are getting actual equity in the company (12%)
I don’t trust anything Musk related, he interferes too much with stuff
All in all this seems like a poor target for criticism IMO. Conservatives seem to be chasing at the whole “do it cheaper now, but will cost you more later” angle with Musk here
ButWhatAboutisms on
Conservatives are so patriotic. Gleefully outsourcing a Canadian job for Canadians to an African who decided to move to America. All to own the libs
KeySpace333 on
Elon musk is a foreign agent and needs to be kept far away from meddling in Canada
Leading_Attention_78 on
The same Musk that valued Twitter for how much?
LibertarianPlumbing on
Amazing how people are still okay with the liberal government spending when they literally have done nothing with the absurd spending. Also incredible how Justin isn’t in jail considering all the bribes he’s proven to have gotten like that we charity scandal. Imagine Pierre got 500k then dished out 500m to his cronies and how pissed liberals would be. The hypocrisy is palpable.
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Thwackitypow on
“Please be our oligarch! We’re just as racist as you, we promise!”
krisknudsen on
🖕Elon Musk
fartmasterzero on
Another reason to worry about the Conservatives.
Dadbode1981 on
Lol Conservatives always show you who they are. Imagine wanting to get in bed with musk…. Flippin yikes.
taquitosmixtape on
Canadian company over Musk? This seems like a no brainer. But I wouldn’t be surprised to know the cons want their buddy musk in on it.
Dank_sniggity on
Traditional satalite services suck. Unless telesat is doing spacex style swarms itl just be another slow useless explorenet.
I don’t think people will care about it being Canadian if it sucks.
I think it’s super important to think about how the government spends money, our country’s independence, and the role of foreign companies in our infrastructure. We gotta support Canadian businesses and jobs, and the Telesat project could create a ton of jobs and boost our economy. Plus, it would keep control of important telecommunications stuff in canadian hands, which is good for national security.
But, I’m a bit worried about getting involved with things that don’t make Canadian companies competitive. We’ve seen that happen in other industries before.
onegunzo on
My fellow Canadians, please remove your emotions out of this. They do not belong in a ‘better deal’ for Canada. Why not spend 1/2 the amount for something that works vs. ‘could work in the future’?
Despite what a number of you have said, Elon is Canadian.
Why pay 3.5B (2 loans/grants) when you can get the same for just over $1B… And that’s just more satellites servicing Canadians.
We could have our DND use a similar military system the US military is testing w/SpaceX right now.
StuckInsideYourWalls on
Keep that oligarchal choad out of our fucking country, lol
Not_A_Doctor__ on
Musk is a wretched human being and the Tesla papers show that his business was also built on fraud. I’m fine with not inviting him into the country.
sutree1 on
The CPC does have all the cunning stunts.
Political theatre. Starlink would charge “less than half that” (meaning they wouldn’t be paying any of it back), and of course would then start lobbying to move the goalposts immediately.
moutonbleu on
Amazon Kuiper is coming. Despite this, both firms will be US regulated, and that has national security implications. A loan to a Canadian firm is fine, but they probably won’t be competitive.
punkdrummer22 on
Keep that douchebag Musk out of anything in Canada
ravenscamera on
I thought all you conservatives are against globalization.
BrainEatingAmoeba01 on
The cons love their Nazi heros
TForce0 on
Yea that would will votes.. mr ketamine musk. Excellent choice 🙄
Grosse_fatigue on
The Canadian Conservatives are gonna go down to blow this fascist billionaire ? How surprising of the shitheads !
Smackolol on
This is actually a praise worth investment by the LPC, and trusting the word of Musk on a twitter claim is laughable.
dogfoodhoarder on
Wtf is wrong with these Conservatives.
_getoffmygrass_ on
I’m going on 4 years with starlink this December. Where was Telestat then? Now they are planning on copying an existing and established provider? A little late to the party, by the time they finally offer a unit to complete with V1, Starlink will be fully functional direct to phones (it’s already happening) and the arctic gap will be filled with the new satellites being launched now.
Techchick_Somewhere on
I would like to understand the math behind the repayment of a $2B loan.
Ghostofcoolidge on
The Elon musk derangement syndrome will never cease to amaze me. However competition is good and I don’t blame Canada prioritizing a company from Canada. I wish more countries would do this.
oli_clearwater on
I wouldn’t trust Muskrat for a second. The guy is a bona fide charlatan.
No-Wonder1139 on
Pretty on brand, there’s this club of rightwing weirdos lately.
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Only this Government would think giving a company 2 billion to set up a service that already exists would be a good idea.
Funny enough this money will go to Elon anyways since they’ll probably be the one launching the satalights.
>”Less than half that amount,” Musk responded, prompting Barrett to conclude: “That sounds like a common-sense solution for Canada to me.”
Ironic wording considering anyone with common sense would be double and triple checking any claim Musk makes. Also, common sense, based on past history, would say that Musk shouldn’t be involved.
The guy has shown to have the patience, and maturity, or a petulant toddler. I wouldn’t want him anywhere near large scale infrastructure, or anything that can have a large scale impact on Canadians.
We already have companies like this, and Valley Fiber opening up entire regions of Canada, we don’t need Musk involved.
>Deputy Conservative leader Melissa Lantsman said in the House this week that Carney’s “close friend, the CEO of Telesat, got more than two billion of Canadians’ tax dollars to build a broadband network
Once again, people have to misrepresent the truth to make a point. It’s a loan not a grant.
It’s also unfortunate that Lantsman and others in her party think we should send our money to Musk, who demands subsidies not loans and proven himself unreliable, and not a Canadian company that would see the money stay in Canada.
Doesn’t sound very common sense.
Of course the conservatives want to side with a facist billionaire.
It is a loan not a grant, so we will get paid back
We are supporting a Canadian based company instead of a foreign national
We are getting a high interest rate (9-10% quoted)
We are getting actual equity in the company (12%)
I don’t trust anything Musk related, he interferes too much with stuff
All in all this seems like a poor target for criticism IMO. Conservatives seem to be chasing at the whole “do it cheaper now, but will cost you more later” angle with Musk here
Conservatives are so patriotic. Gleefully outsourcing a Canadian job for Canadians to an African who decided to move to America. All to own the libs
Elon musk is a foreign agent and needs to be kept far away from meddling in Canada
The same Musk that valued Twitter for how much?
Amazing how people are still okay with the liberal government spending when they literally have done nothing with the absurd spending. Also incredible how Justin isn’t in jail considering all the bribes he’s proven to have gotten like that we charity scandal. Imagine Pierre got 500k then dished out 500m to his cronies and how pissed liberals would be. The hypocrisy is palpable.
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“Please be our oligarch! We’re just as racist as you, we promise!”
🖕Elon Musk
Another reason to worry about the Conservatives.
Lol Conservatives always show you who they are. Imagine wanting to get in bed with musk…. Flippin yikes.
Canadian company over Musk? This seems like a no brainer. But I wouldn’t be surprised to know the cons want their buddy musk in on it.
Traditional satalite services suck. Unless telesat is doing spacex style swarms itl just be another slow useless explorenet.
I don’t think people will care about it being Canadian if it sucks.
Conservatives requesting foreign interference. News?
I think it’s super important to think about how the government spends money, our country’s independence, and the role of foreign companies in our infrastructure. We gotta support Canadian businesses and jobs, and the Telesat project could create a ton of jobs and boost our economy. Plus, it would keep control of important telecommunications stuff in canadian hands, which is good for national security.
But, I’m a bit worried about getting involved with things that don’t make Canadian companies competitive. We’ve seen that happen in other industries before.
My fellow Canadians, please remove your emotions out of this. They do not belong in a ‘better deal’ for Canada. Why not spend 1/2 the amount for something that works vs. ‘could work in the future’?
Despite what a number of you have said, Elon is Canadian.
Why pay 3.5B (2 loans/grants) when you can get the same for just over $1B… And that’s just more satellites servicing Canadians.
We could have our DND use a similar military system the US military is testing w/SpaceX right now.
Keep that oligarchal choad out of our fucking country, lol
Musk is a wretched human being and the Tesla papers show that his business was also built on fraud. I’m fine with not inviting him into the country.
The CPC does have all the cunning stunts.
Political theatre. Starlink would charge “less than half that” (meaning they wouldn’t be paying any of it back), and of course would then start lobbying to move the goalposts immediately.
Amazon Kuiper is coming. Despite this, both firms will be US regulated, and that has national security implications. A loan to a Canadian firm is fine, but they probably won’t be competitive.
Keep that douchebag Musk out of anything in Canada
I thought all you conservatives are against globalization.
The cons love their Nazi heros
Yea that would will votes.. mr ketamine musk. Excellent choice 🙄
The Canadian Conservatives are gonna go down to blow this fascist billionaire ? How surprising of the shitheads !
This is actually a praise worth investment by the LPC, and trusting the word of Musk on a twitter claim is laughable.
Wtf is wrong with these Conservatives.
I’m going on 4 years with starlink this December. Where was Telestat then? Now they are planning on copying an existing and established provider? A little late to the party, by the time they finally offer a unit to complete with V1, Starlink will be fully functional direct to phones (it’s already happening) and the arctic gap will be filled with the new satellites being launched now.
I would like to understand the math behind the repayment of a $2B loan.
The Elon musk derangement syndrome will never cease to amaze me. However competition is good and I don’t blame Canada prioritizing a company from Canada. I wish more countries would do this.
I wouldn’t trust Muskrat for a second. The guy is a bona fide charlatan.
Pretty on brand, there’s this club of rightwing weirdos lately.